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bobdaley   
bobdaley

I had some stats on Herk safety in the ANG/AFRC. I counted 9 units with over 40 years of accident free flying, and a lot more with spotless records. So I decided to try the same for active duty units. I was looking up info and ran into some questions can anyone help?

I think I remember 36AS was a 141 squadron from 1989 to 1993?

When did 79 RQS first get Herks? It was the only Herk Sq not in the squadron history listings at AF Historical Research?

Has 50AS been accident free since 1972?

Has 67SOS been accident free since it got Herks in 1965?

Has 53AS been accident free since it got Herks in 1993?

Is 517 AS still an Associate SQ at Elmendorf?

Back in 1969, 65-0990 an HC-130H was lost off Taiwan. Every place I have looked said it was from the 57ARRS, but the 57ARRS was at Lajes at the time. I guess it could have been TDY but just wondering?

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Bob

BTW right now it looks like 67SOS has been accident free for 48 years, all the rest of the active squadrons are 30 years or less.

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PerfManJ   
PerfManJ

Bob, can't help you with the squadron timelines, but I'm curious where you get the mishap data. Recently I tried to get some stats from the Air Force Safety Center with no luck. They publish Class A mishaps data on their website, but I was looking for more minor mishaps, like Class B and C. Thanks.

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Llecrupwt   
Llecrupwt

Do tell Bob, what AFRC/ANG units have the best safety record in the Herk?

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DC10FE   
DC10FE

I think I remember 36AS was a 141 squadron from 1989 to 1993?

Bob,

From the AF Historical Research Agency web site:

Aircraft. C-47, 1942-1946; C-82, 1946-1950; C-119, 1950-1957. C-130, 1966-1968. C-130, 1968-1989; C-141, 1989-1993; C-130, 1993-.

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bobdaley   
bobdaley

The nine units with over 40 years were:

115AS CA ANG 43 years C130A,B,E,J

96AS AFRC MN 42years C130A,E,H

109AS MN ANG 42 years C130A,E,H

139AS NY ANG 42 years C130A,D,D6,H,LC130H

142AS DE ANG 42 years C130A,H

328AS AFRC NY 42 years C130A,E,H

187AS WY ANG 41 years C130B,H

815AS AFRC MS 40 years C130A,B,WC130E,WC130H,C130E, C130J

711 SOS which recently gave up their MC-130E's had 42 years

Along the same line of the remaining Guard and Reserve Herk units only 5 have had accidents:

95 AS 2 both in Honduras

731AS, 154TRS, 156AS, 165AS one each

Bob

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bobdaley   
bobdaley

The mishap data came from the AF Safety Center and Lars Olausson's book.

The only accident data I got from AFSC was about class A accidents. Over a Million dollars damage or loss of life.

Bob

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larry myers   
larry myers

Bob, I'm not at all surprised that ANG/AFRC herc units have outstanding safety records. When I was assigned at Hqs. TAC, part of my job was assistance visits to guard/reserve units converting to C-130Es. Prior to this time I'd had little exposure to these units and like many active duty guys, had little regard for Reserve Component units. That quickly changed as I traveled to the different units. I was repeatedly impressed with the condition of their airplanes and the professionalism of the troops assigned. In one unit I met a crew chief that had been on the same aircraft for ten years. In another I saw two pilots with white hair and weathered faces. It appeared they had been flying since Mitchell and probably had a zillion hours. Further, for the most part, unit facilities were top notch. Better, in many cases, than active duty units.

It's been a long time, and most units were very good, but the California Guard unit then at Van Nuys stands out in my memory as outstanding. I think they were just greatly relieved to get rid of their C-97s.

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addison   
addison

I had some stats on Herk safety in the ANG/AFRC. I counted 9 units with over 40 years of accident free flying, and a lot more with spotless records. So I decided to try the same for active duty units. I was looking up info and ran into some questions can anyone help?

I think I remember 36AS was a 141 squadron from 1989 to 1993?

When did 79 RQS first get Herks? It was the only Herk Sq not in the squadron history listings at AF Historical Research?

Has 50AS been accident free since 1972?

Has 67SOS been accident free since it got Herks in 1965?

Has 53AS been accident free since it got Herks in 1993?

Is 517 AS still an Associate SQ at Elmendorf?

Back in 1969, 65-0990 an HC-130H was lost off Taiwan. Every place I have looked said it was from the 57ARRS, but the 57ARRS was at Lajes at the time. I guess it could have been TDY but just wondering?

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Bob

BTW right now it looks like 67SOS has been accident free for 48 years, all the rest of the active squadrons are 30 years or less.

Hello Bob, I was thinking of 0990 today it being Memorial Day 2014. She was from the 31st ARRS out of Clark AB,PI. Lt Col George Pinyard was the squadron commander,Captain Giles Gray was the AC commander,there were 14 on board and 13 were lost, one PJ survived. I have a crash report buried away that I can access later if you desire. At the time I was a AGE Sgt in the squadron, and remember the day quite well.

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Atouk   
Atouk

Bob,

The 50 AS had a fatal accident in I think Feb of '79. We lost our Squadron Commander. This was a result of a throttle cable failure. Remember, all Herks were grounded until checked?

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herkman   
herkman

The original Australian c130 squadron no 36 squadron with over 500,000 hours on 12 airframes, no accidents since 1958. Coupled

to 37 squadron who from 1965 have almost another 400,000 hours accident free ,on 12 airframes too.

We were taught good by the USAF exchange pilots two at least have gone to herky heaven. A great job by our maintainers coupled to an excellent aircraft..

Regards Col

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bobdaley   
bobdaley

Atouk,

I could not find one in Feb of 79, but I did find 68-10951 on 10 Dec 78 with a LCol Hodge as the pilot. The accident was at Ft Campbell. Cause was a throttle cable.

Bob

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Atouk   
Atouk

I guess my memory was off slightly. I will never forget that one.

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David.Bearden   
David.Bearden
On 5/25/2014 at 5:18 PM, addison said:

 

Hello Bob, I was thinking of 0990 today it being Memorial Day 2014. She was from the 31st ARRS out of Clark AB,PI. Lt Col George Pinyard was the squadron commander,Captain Giles Gray was the AC commander,there were 14 on board and 13 were lost, one PJ survived. I have a crash report buried away that I can access later if you desire. At the time I was a AGE Sgt in the squadron, and remember the day quite well.

Was at McGuire for HC-130 training after Tech School with orders for Clark and the 31st ARRS in January/February, 1969, when this accident happened...the PJ who survived eventually came back to the 31st and resumed duties there...an amazing story...

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David.Bearden   
David.Bearden
On 6/8/2013 at 3:07 PM, bobdaley said:

I had some stats on Herk safety in the ANG/AFRC. I counted 9 units with over 40 years of accident free flying, and a lot more with spotless records. So I decided to try the same for active duty units. I was looking up info and ran into some questions can anyone help?

I think I remember 36AS was a 141 squadron from 1989 to 1993?

When did 79 RQS first get Herks? It was the only Herk Sq not in the squadron history listings at AF Historical Research?

Has 50AS been accident free since 1972? Now Closed

Has 67SOS been accident free since it got Herks in 1965?

Has 53AS been accident free since it got Herks in 1993? Now Closed

Is 517 AS still an Associate SQ at Elmendorf? Now Closed

Back in 1969, 65-0990 an HC-130H was lost off Taiwan. Every place I have looked said it was from the 57ARRS, but the 57ARRS was at Lajes at the time. I guess it could have been TDY but just wondering?

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Bob

BTW right now it looks like 67SOS has been accident free for 48 years, all the rest of the active squadrons are 30 years or less.

 

 

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Debbie Stroud   
Debbie Stroud
On 9/2/2016 at 0:48 PM, David.Bearden said:

Was at McGuire for HC-130 training after Tech School with orders for Clark and the 31st ARRS in January/February, 1969, when this accident happened...the PJ who survived eventually came back to the 31st and resumed duties there...an amazing story...

RIP: SSgt. Carlton E. Stroud (Feb 7,  1938 - Feb 5, 1969) 65-0990 off Taiwan. How can I obtain a copy of the crash report?

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bobdaley   
bobdaley

Best p;lace to start ids AF Safety Center at Kirtland AFB NM.

You might try Jose Gonzalez there his phone is 505-853-8794

Bob

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NATOPS1   
NATOPS1

Can anyone provide a link to or copy of the accident report for 68-10951 that crashed on 10 Dec 78 

 

Any other data (reports/ accounts) on Throttle Cable Failures would be greatly appreciated as well. 

Especially interested in any reports of Reverse blade angle encountered in flight and or blade separation.   

Thank You!!

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