spec13fe Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Got an email with some pictures of a C17, looked like a gear up landing at Bagram anyone have any info? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loadsmith Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 11 pages worth of reading if you are interested, some input from some folks in the same unit as well. http://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14852 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltsload Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 5/8/2009 - SCOTT AIR FORCE BASE, Ill. (AFNS) -- Air Mobility Command here May 7 released the results of its investigation into the Jan. 30 mishap involving a C-17 Globemaster III that landed with retracted gear at Bagram Airfield, Afghanistan. The Accident Investigation Board, convened by AMC officials, concluded the primary cause of the mishap was the failure of the pilots to lower the landing gear and confirm proper aircraft landing configuration in accordance with the before landing checklist. The AIB president also found that aircrew distractions, task saturation, reduced cockpit visual cues, failure of the flight crew to cross-monitor each other's performance, the tower's failure to transmit a required reminder, and the crew's inadvertent disabling of the ground proximity warning system alerts contributed to the mishap. The mishap occurred as the C-17 was landing at Bagram Airfield during a combat airlift mission in support of operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom and Joint Task Force Horn of Africa operations. The aircraft landed on the runway centerline with the landing gear retracted and slid approximately 4,500 feet before coming to rest on the runway. Crash, fire and rescue response was immediate, and there were no fatalities, injuries or damage to other property. However, damage to the aircraft's main landing gear and fuselage underbelly was significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I remember crews landing with parts of the gear up to mechanical reasons but were there any Herk unintentional gear up landings? I confess I came close one time. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Davenport Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) I remember crews landing with parts of the gear up to mechanical reasons but were there any Herk unintentional gear up landings? I confess I came close one time. Bob Bob I remember one while I was at CCK a crew on a pilot pro somewhere in Taiwan did. I think it was a 345th crew. Skip Edited May 8, 2009 by Skip Davenport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeyglenn Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Bob I think that one was at Makung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeyglenn Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I also think the Engineer, was Roy Shoal, I remember walking past him and saying "Gear Up" and getting a very dirty look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Funny, but not. Two man flightdeck in a combat environment......... Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I do remember something at Makung and a midget named Iosue was pissed off but still got promoted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsoto Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I remember crews landing with parts of the gear up to mechanical reasons but were there any Herk unintentional gear up landings? I confess I came close one time. Bob Hi Bob, I think the 16th did one at Blytheville, AR in the late 80's. Not sure but I think the Engineer pulled the c/b for the warning horn while doing Touch and Go's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Millen Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I do remember something at Makung and a midget named Iosue was pissed off but still got promoted No Bob, the one at Makung was a plane in the drink no survivors. Determined to be caused by a blown tire. I spent 5 days on a Navy sea going tug and dove on the wreck several times. The head of investigation was a full colonel sent up tdy from Clark he had only been at Clark a short time. After reading several old reports that a blown tire could cause a lot of damage he decided that was the cause. I did not agree but no one listened...after the investigation I went to the colleital board and stated my thoughts, a thrown prop but still no one listened. I will go to my grave beliving that it was a prop through the right side. The gear up landing was at Tainan CB pulled as they were making repeated touch and goes......I think this happened prior to Col Isoue, but he was HMIC when the Guam FIASCO happened. Muff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1300 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 You are correct, Bruce. My first Depot Field Team trip was to Blytheville to get the Herk platched up to fly back to Warner Robins for repair. I do believe that was 1986. We strapped the sides together with steel straps and then a crew did a one-time flight to depot. Aluminum structure melts pretty quickly when sliding down a runway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooseherc Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Funny, but not. Two man flightdeck in a combat environment......... Go figure. Had nothing to do with what happened. All the crew combined had less than 4000 hrs. 3 pilot's and 2 load masters. Both A1C's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyclark Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 One would think there is a landing gear warning horn as well as the GCAS going off. Sorry, but it is inexcusable, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Hi Bob, I think the 16th did one at Blytheville, AR in the late 80's. Not sure but I think the Engineer pulled the c/b for the warning horn while doing Touch and Go's. The FE on that one had just left the 37th for the 16th. His name started with an "M," I'm pretty sure. Something like "Mantel?" Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe.dawson Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 It was Aug of 1985. The plane was on Down Wind and asked to make a 360 to allow for a Tanker to take off. This broke the crews regular routine with the student pilots. The tower had some Base Ops guys working in the tower for some reason I don't remember. They were discussing if the gear was down or not. Plane landed on center line, but had a problem taxing. I don't remember any talk about the circuit breaker being pulled. I took the check books and clothes up to the crew during an afternoon pilot pro from the 16th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsoto Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 It was Aug of 1985. The plane was on Down Wind and asked to make a 360 to allow for a Tanker to take off. This broke the crews regular routine with the student pilots. The tower had some Base Ops guys working in the tower for some reason I don't remember. They were discussing if the gear was down or not. Plane landed on center line, but had a problem taxing. I don't remember any talk about the circuit breaker being pulled. I took the check books and clothes up to the crew during an afternoon pilot pro from the 16th. I could be wrong about the c/b being pulled that was a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbob Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 It was Aug of 1985. The plane was on Down Wind and asked to make a 360 to allow for a Tanker to take off. This broke the crews regular routine with the student pilots. The tower had some Base Ops guys working in the tower for some reason I don't remember. They were discussing if the gear was down or not. Plane landed on center line, but had a problem taxing. I don't remember any talk about the circuit breaker being pulled. I took the check books and clothes up to the crew during an afternoon pilot pro from the 16th. Joe's got it closest that I remember. I think the one that got them was they were also simulated engine out which means they had the one throttle at flight idle. That's why the warning horn didn't sound unless I'm forgetting how things worked! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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