Spectre623 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) That's right folks ,16 of the 20 C-27A's that were bought for $486 million dollars by the U.S. for the Afghan Air Force, were sold for scrap for $32,000 or 6 cents per pound. That is $2000 per airplane!!!! Afghan air force said they did not meet operational requirements so they sold them for scrap to an Afghan construction company, says an article in this months Air Force magazine. Well dang, I would like to have had one for a weather vane in my front yard at 6 cents a pound. The only reason they didn't sell all 20 is because 4 are at Ramstein. The U.S. Air Force secretary is hopping mad and wants to know "WHO DUNNIT". Didn't we send them some C-130's too. Wonder what they will be sold for... 10 cents a pound? Who is running this madhouse anyway? Bill :( Edited November 16, 2014 by Spectre623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Knowing how airplanes fare in 3rd world countries, I'm pretty sure their C-130's will wind up derelict in some remote area of the airport. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The C-27's that were scrapped were ex Italian AF. Most of the ex Howard C-27's are at AMARG, a few were with State Dept for awhile. Too cold in Texas, in Panama for 2 weeks. Howard is now called Panama Pacifica and is being redeveloped, saw it yesterday. Looks like it will be really nice. Unfortunately the Ancon Inn is gone. Wife is keeping her eye on me, so I have not been able to check out a lot of the old haunts. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Good info Bob. I corrected the title. So we bought 20 C-27's for $486 million from the IAF, that's $2.43 million each and the Afghans sold 16 for $32,000 which is $2000 apiece for a loss of OUR money of $2.42 million each! I'll bet the Italians are still laughing at us. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHeflin Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Bob; any Panamanians down there that bear an uncanny resemblence to me is purely coincidental; especially in the vicinity of the old Ancon Inn. Oh to be 19 years old once more running wild in the streets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I first got to Panama on rote in 1971, What a great time. I always come back when I can. You would not believe the growth. Beautiful skyscrapers and resorts everywhere. I am afraid walking downtown that someone will walk up to me and say hi Dad! The wife would not be understanding! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Bill That is the third time the the Italians suckered us on the C-27. The first was the ones in Panama. Then the ones to Afghanistan, and then the J models for the Army, that the AF demanded and got, then did not want them and they went to the ANG and they did not want them and they ended up with the Coasties and the Forest Service. I don't think any of them are flying. The Italians laughed all thew way to the bank. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfManJ Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 First C-27J delivered to USCG...2nd coming soon. I was expecting to see it in the usually glossy white and orange/red paint job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railrunner130 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 What is/was the HC-177? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I think that is a misprint for the HC-144 the new USCG Rescue plane that replaced their Falcons. It is a model of the Airbus/EADS Casa 235, I think. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfManJ Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Correct, Bob. It is the HC-144A Ocean Sentry, based on the CN-235A. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg7/cg711/c144a.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHeflin Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 What's ironic is that back in the late 90s LM was teamed with Alenia to market/sell the C-27J. This was right around the time that the USCG had their huge program to update/replace a significant portion of the surface vessels/aircraft in their fleet. Well the Maritime Division of LM (not the Aeronautical) pitched a package of new cutters and a fixed wing patrol aircraft. Without consulting the Bubbas down at Marietta they bid a proposal that included the CN-235. At the time I was working with Alenia on getting the 27J airdrop certified and let me tell you the Italians were fit to be tied. Especially when LM Maritime won. Needless to say that was the end of the relationship. And now here we are 15 years or so later and the Coasties are getting the 27J. Like they say "one man's trash, is another man's treasure". It's good to be the USAF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railrunner130 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 It's all fun and games until it's PDM time. That's why the AF claims it was removed from service- they didn't want to flip the bill to get the PDM cycle spun up. That being said, I think if the C-27J had been purchased 10 years earlier, there would be significantly less Herks in service today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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