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  1. Metalbasher

    63-7786

    I don't know the tail #...will check on Monday but I do know we had a C-130E land here at Robins the other day (Wed or Thur) to be sanitized (US markings removed) prior to heading to Jordan with FMS. Scott
  2. It has bolt on stars and bars in the early 90s I know...it was at Yokota during that time...one of the 3 "Super Es". There were a few other anomalies associated with these acft as well.
  3. Sam Saw your Loadmaster Article in Air Force Magazine or Sergeant's Magazine (don't remember which one) but good article. Scott
  4. Got mine...thanks Bob...should come in handy. Scott
  5. I'd like a copy please. spward@cox.net Thanks in advance. Scott
  6. The engineer involved with the program at the beginning is still working at Robins...I'm traveling right now and don't have access to all my historical data...maybe I can hit you up next week with a name. Scott
  7. They are using it at Robins full time now but it was a long time coming. As with all the other software products they buy into, there were several delays to full implementation (I'm sure some cost overruns too). Like I said, being used at Robins but guards don't use it half the time and then it's not every one in the vehicle, just randomly to keep the terrorist on their toes. They said it would be faster for checking and decrease gate traffic...haven't seen that yet...don't think we will either.
  8. I had heard the same thing about the pilot. I also heard there was pressure from leadership that it was to happen on the first go...no "go arounds" or passover...it would come out on the first run. I knew Tony...good friend. I was on the Rote with him in Moldyhole when the roof opened. After that, I went to Yokota in 90 and he followed shortly there after, after he got his flying status back from the accident injuries. He flew for a year or two at Yokota and then came across a flight doc that felt sorry for him..."living through a crash as well as a mid air incident and had nothing to show for it except scars and trauma". So the doc recommended him for MEB (against his wishes). It went through and left as a Sgt. Last time I saw him, he was the Sgt at Arms at the Yokota NCO Club in 94...not a bad gig but it came with SOFA status.
  9. Thai's have that custom...been there, done that with my ex and her family. There are some half moon/semi circle shelter type structures on Kadena (going past the shoppette toward the backside of the base toward the par 3 golf course and base housing that is off base) that were reported to have been used as aircraft/drone shelters. There are placards in front of these structures stating the same. Rumor has it that in the thick jungle behind these structures is a huge deep ditch that supposably houses a crashed and burned B-17 or B-52...just a rumor as I could never find anything to confirm such information.
  10. Museum's answer to the YMC-130 question: Our museum collections team debated for many months about bringing in C-130E 63-7868. We looked hard at what it would take to move and preserve the aircraft and balanced that against the fact that the E-models are retiring and 63-7868 has a terrific history. It has been well maintained, giving us much needed time before a new coat of paint will be required. Every museum has to make tough choices about what to preserve and that is why we have chosen to "turn-in" the Credible Sport aircraft to the National Museum of the USAF. Our resources are very limited, and we welcome volunteer and financial support to help preserve the museum's aircraft. As far as the Credible Sport program goes, the museum's C-130H, 74-1686, did little, really. It was modified to test a daring concept, but it never actually used the rocket system in flight (see Jerry L. Thigpen, The Praetorian Starship, pp. 245-246, available online). After Credible Sport was cancelled, 1686 was the testbed for the Talon II program but it never flew again as an airlifter. When it arrived at the museum in 1988, it was a stripped-out hulk, inside and out. C-130E 63-7868, on the other hand, is complete aircraft. It also flew tactical airlift in combat in Africa, all over Southeast Asia, and finally in Southwest Asia during a remarkable 47-year career. Their answer with regard to the AC-130: The museum is repainting the outside aircraft on a 5-year cycle. The AC-130 is scheduled for 2013. In the last few years, we have focused on painting smaller aircraft and moving them into our three hangars where they will be preserved out of the weather. Our restoration folks have done a great job with this work. This effort has meant holding off on painting many of our outside aircraft. We must do better, and we're working hard to catch up. We can always use help and we welcome volunteers from the base and the community who would like to work with our restoration crew. A representative from the Museum of Aviation Foundation will also happily talk to anyone who would like to make a financial donation to help preserve the aircraft. I don't buy this as I've been here 5 years and this acft hasn't been touched.
  11. Resting Place for a Red Dragon Herk: A 47-year-old C-130E, one of the Air Force's oldest Hercules aircraft and the veteran of a harrowing rescue decades ago, landed for the last time at Robins AFB, Ga., for display at the adjacent Museum of Aviation. Aircraft # 63-7868 arrived at Robins on Tuesday, reported the Macon Telegraph. On Nov. 23, 1964, this aircraft was among the C-130s that participated in Operation Dragon Rouge to rescue 2,000 western hostages held by rebels in Stanleyville in the former Republic of the Congo. Damaged by rebel fire departing Stanleyville, aircraft # 63-7868 continued 800 miles on three engines, delivering its passengers to safety and earning its crew the MacKay Trophy for the most meritorious flight of that year. Previously assigned to the 314th Airlift Wing at Little Rock AFB, Ark., this C-130E is the museum's second Hercules variant, joining an AC-130 gunship already on display. (See also Museum of Aviation release)
  12. I used to work for Ken Emory and I contacted him about this acft about 3 months ago. He told me that since it was only modified for the mission but never actually flew or did the training with the rockets etc, that it had no historical significance. Due to the size and resource constraints at the MOA, he had contacted the AF Museum and told them it was up for grabs...any other museum that wanted it could have it as the MOA at Robins did not want it. What a shame, the best place in the world to accomplish a first class restoration to such an aircraft and they can't do it!
  13. Those are the "super E's".
  14. There is an AF Instruction out there for static displays, AFI 84-103, The Air Force Heritage Program. It has tons of info regarding static displays. I got a copy but not sure how to upload it. Sam The Museum's modified aircraft is up for grabs...the museum director has contacted Wright Patt and told them he doesn't want it anymore...he doesn't have the facilities required to properly put it on display. Several other aircraft are also up for grabs for the same reason. Thing that bothers me is the condition of the both that particular aircraft and the AC-130 are in piss-poor pitiful condition all while they reside at a museum that is adjacent to the C-130 depot facilities. No one else has better facilities to at least sand and repaint or for that matter strip and repaint these aircraft and restore to at least halfway presentable condition as they are both in public viewing areas.
  15. As a sheet metal guy, god knows I replaced too many camlocks to count over the years. I too have asked this same question and have never seen a reference. Was always told none missing on the leading edge, panel corners and no more than two-three in a row. I do know there are aircraft out there (F-16 and others) that provide panel diagrams in the books and specifically show on the diagrams which holes must be filled.
  16. You might try reaching out to the Museum of Aviation at Robins AFB, they have a big selection of C-130 parts/components in their back yard/parts area that are not being used, to include outer wings etc. They might be willing to part with some of these parts as they already have a few Herks on display and the remaining Herks they have are up for grabs by other organizations/museums. (478) 926-6870, talk to Col (ret) Ken Emery.
  17. The F-16s, aka Coral Phoenix acft are out at Edwards...been out there since the deal went south. We've been flying them as flight test/chase planes...all had the orange/white paint schemes.
  18. Av-Dec materials and low-tack sealant should be all that is authorized. No more skyflex (junk) authorized!
  19. TO 1-1-8, Application and Removal of Organic Coatings for Aerospace and Non-Aerospace Equipment TO 1-1-691, Cleaning and Corrosion Prevention and Control for Aerospace and Non-Aerospace Equipment (This TO was formerly a Joint TO with Navy...TM509 and was split out as USAF TO 10-15 years ago) 1-1-689 Vols 1 & 3 but pertain to avionics/electronics Vol 1 CLEANING AND CORROSION CONTROL Vol 3 CLEANING AND CORROSION CONTROL All these are general series TOs and are applicable to any and all weapons systems in lieu of weapons system specific guidance, i.e. 1C-130A-23. Even still you can look in the -23 and it will reference all these books. Prior to these books, TO 1-1-4 was out there but mainly for stencils and markings. Don't recall when 1-1-2 was recinded.
  20. AC-Tech makes a quick cure sealant. Not exactly sure of the cure times but it is faster than the PPG material. If you are interested in a poc, email me at spward@cox.net and I can put you in touch with someone.
  21. A friend was doing some research on all USAF fixed-wing losses in Viet Nam...I cut it down as applicable for this forum but the original list contained all aircraft MDSs USAF fixed-wing losses in Viet Nam AC-47 Spooky-- --19 total, 12 in combat -First loss 1965, final loss 1969 AC-119 Shadow/Stinger-- --6 total, 2 in combat -First loss AC-119G 52-5907 (Det.1, 17th SOS, 14th SOW) which crashed on take-off from Tan Son Nhut, SVN on 11 October 1969 killing 6 of the 10 crewmen.-Final loss 1971 AC-130 Spectre-- --6 total, all combat. -First loss AC-130A 54-1629 (16th SOS, 8th TFW) hit by 37mm AAA over Laos and crash-landed at Ubon RTAFB, 2 crewmen died (one died of injuries before reaching Ubon) but 11 others survived.-Final loss 1972 C-130 Hercules-- --55 total, 34 in combat -First loss was C-130A 57-0475 (817th Troop Carrier Squadron, 6315th Operations Group) on 24 April 1965, a Blind Bat flareship that crashed into high ground near Korat Royal Thai Air Force Base, Thailand, attempting to land in bad weather with a heavy load, two engine failures, and low fuel, killing all six crewmen. This was the 14th recorded loss of a C-130 to all causes.- Final loss C-130E 72-1297 (314th TAW) destroyed by rocket fire at Tan Son Nhut AB on 28 April 1975.
  22. There should be a table in the back of the -3 or maybe its in the back of the IPB. Those are Lockheed part numbers for the various pieces of extrusion the Lockheed used. Some are standard configuration with Lockheed numbers and will cross over to other part numbers but others are specific to Lockheed. When you find the table in the TO, it will show a a front view and side view and provide the respective measurements, material and temper. In some cases, a good machine shop can start out with one piece of extrusion and turn it into another. Hope that helps.
  23. I have video of the semi prepared runway operations done by Boeing for the C-17. They looked at muddy condition, hard pack and semi soft/sanding. The testing was pretty thorough to say the least but it showed that it was capable to do it, but extremely messy and detrimental to all the antennas on the belly as well as the 300M steel landing gear components and composite landing gear doors. They said during the landing on muddy surfaces, that the aircraft actually gained approx 600 lbs from mud kicked up in the wheels and caked on components. Interesting to see one of the landings during the muddy conditions that the C-17 actually did some fish tails in the sloppy conditions (probably pretty damn scary).
  24. Not sure but I found this...appears they didn't but this could be old. Either way, with or without...I wouldn't want to mess with this acft
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