Dave in WV

We all started out with no flight hours. In the end we all did the same job.

Merry Christmas to you.

I'm fortunate the old timers told me to wear ear plugs and my headset to protect my hearing. My hearing loss is due to age and I had 9 years on the flight line and 4000 hours flying time.

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Maybe it will help explaining it a different way. C-130B They have a high pressure gaseous oxygen system and no pylon tanks. C-130E They have a liquid oxygen system and pylon tanks. C-130H They can have many different systems from the first H models but what sets them apart from E models is they were built for a 40,000 hour flying time life span VS a 20,000 hour life span of the E models. To break down DC10FE's post: C= type (cargo 130=model B/E/H/J= series As things change on the C-130, if enough things were changed with the airframe or systems the series identifier is changed to depict it. I hope this helps. Dave

Not a case of stopping someone from doing something stupid but I did safe us from being stuck in Macedonia. We were operating out of Belgium and had a trip to Grafenwoehr, Germany to pick up a few Pax and cargo. I asked where were getting fuel and the pilot said in Macedonia. I grabbed the mission kit and looked for the contract fuel forms and the file folder was empty. I asked what we were buying fuel with, our looks because there were no contract fuel forms and my credit card's limit was way short. The nav checked and sure enough we didn't have them.They called back to Belgium and they faxed the cover sheet and then the nav made copies before we left Graf. We landed in Macedonia and they had 6 copies of the form and no carbon papers with them. The local guy said no problem, we'll get our money. There was a Russian AN-12 on the ramp an the crew were waving their arms while they talked to the Macedonia guy. The Russians hadn't been paying for their fuel and the Macedonians told them no more credit for them! "We'll take dollars, Macedonian currency, German marks, French and Swiss franks, and English pounds. No Rubles because your money is no good either"! The Ruskies had to wait for the Russian Embassy to get money and pay for the fuel.

IIRC "the book" recommended alternating the first if there were multiple stops during the day. We didn't normally do it but during Desert Shield/Storm we did because we were eating starters on #3.

I never saw one of the support stands. They are for holding up the rear of the plane if you remove more than two engines (maybe more than one at a time, it's been a while). We asked the Lockheed tech rep we had when the unit first got Herks. He explained the stand and it's use but he said no one used them as far as he knew. We used pet rocks when more than two engines were removed.

Bog Down is when the engine RPMs decay. I've only had it happen on the ground in high ambient air temps and placing engines in low speed ground idle. Going into reverse at too high an air speed can/will cause it. Flame out is when the fuel in the burner cans quits burning. An engine can bog down and cause a flame out. Some of our planes had a problem with bog downs in the Middle East in high ambient air temps. It was caused by low speed ground idle on all 4 engines with the air conditioning on (a bad thing to do). The wind direction wasn't blowing toward the engine intakes and the engines starved for air.

Real large city cops learn to shoot by watching the likes of the Die Hard series. Shoot 100 rounds off and hit one or two bad guys. Almost all movies with a C-130 in it are J models (even 30 years ago) because they don't have a FE and the windscreens look like a Gooney Bird's.

OR a C-47/DC-3

The Navy did have a bottle break loose on takeoff. IIRC it hit the #3 prop.

Bill, Thanks for the info.

The H2s didn't have JATO attachments. We were told by Lockheed the LC-130H models attachment points were put on the wheel well blisters and could not be jettisoned in flight. When the NY ANG took over the Antarctica mission from the Navy they took in some of the Navy LCs.

Note: Install "pet rock" in FWD cargo comp. BEFORE removing 3rd engine! [ATTACH=CONFIG]3967[/ATTACH]