SlickMDS

Thanks for all the information, it is greatly appreciated.

I'm looking for any info on the 1 Apr 1997 crash at Toncontin International Airport in Tegucigalpa, Honduras. This is what I do know: Unit/Pilot/tail #/landed long, fast, & incorrect flap setting/already went around twice/ran off runway killing 3 crew members. I remember going over this accident in AMIC but can't find anything but general articles on the web. It's for a human factors class and would like to have a little more info before I press on with the writing. Thanks in advance for any input you may provide. Mike

This is an Active-Reserve squadron, the 52d falls under the 19 OG/19 AW at Little Rock, just like the 30th at Cheyenne just Reserve instead of Guard. Utilizing the newest AF acronym- TFI. The active crews will fly the reserve aircraft. No Js there, that will come next year when another TFI unit stands up somewhere else.

Hey Woody, looking back through my old documents I found one from Gunny Ramey & here are the stats we provided during that quick turn moment: recovered & launched 104 acft, serviced over 4 million pounds of fuel & corrected all grounding discrepancies, gaining a 100% launch reliability rate. As for a picture, I do have one that one of the crews coming back for a second round gave me, I will have to dig it up & see if I can forward you a copy.

Thanks for info. I know I have been told that before but I'm also reaching that "geezer" status.

On acft 62-1793, s/n 3743 there is a probe that is approx. half down the rt outbd l/e, any input to what this is/was for? It can be seen in Bob's gallery of photos for this acft, you can see the probe on acft of like year but not all of them have it. I have searched through all my available books and cannot find a reference to this. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Mike

It was National Air Cargo with supposedly a Turkish crew.

62-1793 is assigned to the 61st, it is currently deployed right now. I put a 9.5 on it two days ago. Mike

I once had a QA guy try to jack me for walking thru the prop arc while the aircraft was cribbed in the hangar with #3 removed. Needless to say we had words and the write-up never made it to paper, common sense prevailed. The -1 also has a Warning: Personnel will not be in the vicinity of or go through the static propeller arc (bleed air on or off) unless absolutely necessary in the performance of duties. As for the Bottle placement I recently found paperwork from Little Rock QA stating that Lockheed suggested not moving the bottles and to leave them installed in their original location with armor installed. They were going to remove the change from the 00GE. I\'ll have to pull it up to find the date and exact verbage. Later. Mike

Dan, Thanks for the response and this makes sense if you have replacements available, but it isn\'t feasible when you are on the road with an empty bottle because the valve got bumped. I know it is to clean/dry out any moisture/contaminants that may have begun in the bottle. So is the three times \"hot purge\" an effective measure and is there a reference to go with it? This isn\'t to start a pissing contest or stay somewhere cool for a few extra days, I\'m in the dirt so there is no leaving just more staying, this more so for discussion and passing info. Thanks again. Later, Mike

Dave, While we were at the \'Dorf that change came out to move them to the galley wall. The issue was then brought up with that relocation it would prevent the pilot from expeditiously egressing the aircraft due to the space between the FEs seat and the bottles on the wall. Especially with body armor on. So, trying to make a long story short but failing, we (QA) put in a change to relocate them to the front side of FS 245, as Tiny had mentioned where the sextant was since it was going to be removed. The change was approved but I never seen it take place. I am now over in the dirt flying (as an FE) with the Rock and on a couple of Cheyenne aircraft and all the brackets are in their original location and the bottles are pulled and put on the bunk. I don\'t believe they were going to be relocated to the galley wall out of fear of explosiveness, because the relocation put them about head/shoulder level of everyone in the flt deck, above any armor mating. Since we are on the subject of O2 bottles. When a bottle is empty what is the proper purge procedure to reservice it? As a newbie Crew Chief in the early, early 90s I was taught service and drain 3 times, then service. Back then I would never question a Vietnam Vet expediter (if I seen him today I probably still wouldn\'t) and never seen it in writing. So anybody have any words of wisdom or tech data knowledge to pass along? Thanks, Mike