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    Quote Originally Posted by Mt.crewchief View Post
    By the way Sonny, the 781 A that you enclosed is a little more elaborate than the old ones, but most of the blanks and info needed look familiar!
    Ken,

    It was the only one I could find on the net. It is different than the ones I remember too, but had all the info. I assumed (there is that word again) it was a newer version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre623 View Post
    Donwon and Sonny those forms for taking time was the AFTO Form 210, 211, and 212. The 210 was used on a daily basis to show job completion and how long it took to do it. 211 and 212 was for other stuff such as TCTO's. They had how mal code, ie 070 broke,( my favorite) Bill
    Bill,

    Thanks, I remember those form numbers now. Just needed a memory jogger. It still seems to me we didn't have to account for time until mid 1968. I only had to do it for a couple of months. Thanks again,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mt.crewchief View Post
    Sonny, thanks for clarifying what the form numbers were! The 781's I was most concerned with were the daily ones that I think were pretty plain and white in color. They had a place for the Julian Date, the discrepancy, of course the status or severity of the discrepancy, (the diagonal such as the BPO and Preflight and non-grounding things. and of course the Red X which was a grounding discrepancy such as brakes,tires etc. etc.) Then the bottom half of the action taken or something like that and then of course who signed it off! I do remember that an ongoing discrepancy that required a part or whatever was carried fwd. to the 781K when we got back to home base--usually during de-briefing. The 781K was a cardboard sheet in the back of the forms and was yellow. Does that sound right to you??Ken
    Ken,

    That does sound right to me. I believe all the information you are talking about was found on the 781 and 781A. As far as the 781 K being cardboard or yellow. I really don't remember so you could be right.

    Sonny

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    Hey, Bill, 'bout half an hour after I sent my post, i remembered just what you said. Of course the damn stuff was there. But I Do remember that write-up in the 781. I'm correct about that, I hope?????????? Now where the hell did I leave my shoes????LOL!!!!!!

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    I recall the K's being cardboard in years past. They were almost semi-permanent and some writeups there could be in the forms until the next major depot overhaul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INS/Dopplertroop View Post
    I recall the K's being cardboard in years past. They were almost semi-permanent and some writeups there could be in the forms until the next major depot overhaul.
    Thanks for the reply. If the 781K is still on 62-1804, I'll bet it has some of the things I back-ordered that I know I would never get like new seat-covers and the plastic Lockheed cover that went on the yoke hub or whatever it is called. I always was looking for an extra one that I intended to keep for myself!! (never did find one)!!
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    Mt.Crewchief, I'm going to have to get back to this site more often. I too would find it an absolute thrill to go back over those maint. forms. I've asked around a little, but no one seems top think that those old ones back in the early 60s are to be found. But you guys sure dredged up a lot of memories! The grease, oil and blood comment was right on. Back in 1963 through 1967 we never had to keep track of our time. When did that happen? Am I correct in picturing a sheet somewhat larger that todays 81/2 X 11 with two rows of squares about 2x2 with a little square in the upper right corner where the red diadonal or red X went? Geez guys, this is hard on an old man! chris

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    The keeping up with your time was in 64 & 65 at Sewart. "D" section.
    I don't remember any other times it may have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinwhistle View Post
    I too would find it an absolute thrill to go back over those maint. forms. I've asked around a little, but no one seems top think that those old ones back in the early 60s are to be found.
    In the Navy prior to computer's taking over the world, forms lasted 10 flights in the Aircraft Discrepancy Book and then went to the trash can... After the computer take-over, it was 6 months in a computer file back-up. With the new system implemented in the last 5 years or so, I think it's held for 3 years in a back-up. < Read, not really accessible to masses in the Military, let alone public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P3_Super_Bee View Post
    In the Navy prior to computer's taking over the world, forms lasted 10 flights in the Aircraft Discrepancy Book and then went to the trash can... After the computer take-over, it was 6 months in a computer file back-up. With the new system implemented in the last 5 years or so, I think it's held for 3 years in a back-up. < Read, not really accessible to masses in the Military, let alone public.
    I would guess that is similar to the way our daily maint. forms were handled. (the 781A's anyway). I remember when we got back to home station we went to debriefing and all the open write-up's were scheduled for the various shops and back-ordered items went to the 781K. I guess it would be too much to expect to have all of the maint. forms saved and I didn't really expect them to be. But it would be fun to see how you reacted to situations when you were in charge of a multi-million dollar acft. and only in your early 20's!! (or younger)!!
    Ken

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