Muff Millen Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Let\'s see a C117 do this....Got this off the AFA magazine site. Muff Just Another Day: The crew of a C-130 transport from Pope AFB, N.C., overcame the failure of two of the aircraft\'s four engines during a flight March 19 in Southwest Asia to safely deliver five wounded personnel to their destination. While in flight, the No. 2 engine began leaking oil and had to be shut down. About an hour later, the No. 3 engine began malfunctioning and eventually had to be turned off as well. As if that wasn\'t enough, the aircraft\'s autopilot, radar, and No. 1 compass system also went dead. But through it all the crew persevered and reached the destination, landing the C-130 without incident. \"While I have shutdown engines in flight before and regularly operate aircraft that have certain degraded capabilities, I have never faced such a compounded emergency before,\" said Capt. Steve Cheek of the 43rd Operations Support Squadron, who piloted the fateful mission. Amazingly the aircraft was fixed and flying the next day, albeit with a new No. 2 engine. (Pope report by 2nd Lt. Chris Hoyler) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donwon Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Pappy Hayse at Sewart said he once saw a C-130 with all 4 props feathered flying sideways on the GTC, make a safe landing. These were great planes in the day.:dry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjvr99 Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 donwon wrote: ..... These were great planes in the day.:dry: They still are - their day still has several hours to go! :) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donwon Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 pjvr99 wrote: donwon wrote: They still are - their day still has several hours to go! :) Yeah but how many A models do you hear about landing with all 4 engines out flying sideways on the GTC nowdays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkuest Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 That might depend on how many pigs you see flying around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lownslow Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 So what happened to #3 that was so bad that they had to shut it down with #2 already in the bag. We practice 2 engine out approaches/landings here in AFMC. They arent any fun. Think I might have restarted the leaker before landing, provided it was shut down with enough oil left to do so. Great job guys. Nobody really needed the compass, radar, or autopilot anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Millen Posted May 1, 2008 Author Share Posted May 1, 2008 In what manual do you see it is OK to restart if there is enough oil? If it was shut down for an emergency than it should be kept feathered! Plane flies great on two that\'s why it is practiced. Fly safe. Muff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lownslow Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 It doesn\'t fly great on two, thats my point, not at any significant gross weight anyway. It will cruise at a greatly reduced altitude for awhile but an approach on two can be extremely challenging, especially for crews who don\'t practice it and to my knowledge only AFSOC and AFMC practice it. Don\'t even think about going around, it won\'t work with -15s never mind -7s. Sure the Coasties shut two down for search ops but they don\'t land that way, for a reason. Lucky for them the two dead ones were not on the same side. The flight manual does allow for a cruise engine shutdown for an engine losing oil to allow for a restart at a later time for just such an occasion. All I\'m saying is that if I have a few gallons of oil left and the leak isnt to severe and the chance of a fire doesn\'t look that risky I\'m going to strongly recommend you restart the leaker for the approach/landing. I don\'t know what their particular situation was so I\'m not trying to second guess their logic. Cudos to them for bringing it home safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cobra935o Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 The -1, section 3 says its OK in specific situations under loss of oil. This is also practiced in the sim. Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I haven\'t opened a military -1 in almost 23 years, but didn\'t the introduction have a disclaimer that said something like the instructions in the -1 were a poor substitute for common sense? Actually, the situation in the original post really did resemble a \"oh hum day\" in Angola! That was fairly commonplace with the clapped-out Hercs that Transafrik flies. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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