Guest Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 A little birdie whispered in my ear and hinted that there may be consideration in the works to extend the MC-130E service life to 2020 (plus). Any comments? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 With our new El Presidente who knows what may befall the military and our troops who are in harms way. Russia is already positioning missiles as they threatened to do for some time now. Testing the new C in C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmac_Project Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Well you know with such a time tested airframe as the MC-130E you got to keep it in the fight. Need to somehow drop the E so the bean counters will stop lumping it into the category with the rst of the E\'s. The AC-130H\'s are actually E\'s but everyone forgets about it because they are labeled as H\'s. The Talon 1\'s have the upgrades to, but can\'t call them MC-130H\'s that reserved for those other Talons. Talon 1\'s rule........ Engine Mike B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Herk Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 TalonOneTF wrote: A little birdie whispered in my ear and hinted that there may be consideration in the works to extend the MC-130E service life to 2020 (plus). Any comments? John Damn, that would be awesome! Last date I heard was 2015, but could slide as far right as 2018 or could be accellerated in 2011 if MC-J comes online quicker than anticipated. 2020 really works for me...keep the original Chariot of Armageddon in the fight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyChief Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Any talk of the T-1 staying around past 2015 has no basis of fact. MAJCOMs run \"what if\" drills all the time, that\'s all they are. I suspect this talk of MCEs stating past 2020 is just a \"what if\" drill that someone has taken out of context. The MCJ is on track to recapitalize MCPs and MCEs, that is a fact. I\'m not saying that an MCJ as presently envisioned is as capable as an MCE, just stating facts as they are. From a sustainment point of view, the T-1s are the oldest SOF C-130\'s out there, funding to maintain the SOF fleet will continue to shrink and need to be maximized. The SOF fleet needs to be recapitalized to remain viable, how they do it will be cussed and discussed for the next decade, but that\'s where we are headed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Well, so far the DOD has only authorized purchase of 14 of the J-tanker, and only 6 are on contract. Plans for 54 additional are at this point, only plans. It will be interesting to see if the new administration supports DOD budget requests, or will big cuts impact some of the plans. For now, it\'s \"wait and see\". If the MC-130Es are retired in 2015, it will not be due to the center wing; it will just be the stigma of being designated as an \"E\" model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Well you know with such a time tested airframe as the MC-130E you got to keep it in the fight. Need to somehow drop the E so the bean counters will stop lumping it into the category with the rst of the E\'s. The AC-130H\'s are actually E\'s but everyone forgets about it because they are labeled as H\'s. The Talon 1\'s have the upgrades to, but can\'t call them MC-130H\'s that reserved for those other Talons. As a non-SOF FE, just curious about the AC-H\'s actually being E\'s and the Talon 1 upgrades. Were those just -15 engine, AC pack upgrades? Just curious from a trash hauler\'s point of view. I\'m not at all easy about the Dems being in control of the White House now. I\'m sorely afraid that the troops in the field will suffer, and the country will become a 2nd rate military power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarrett Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 AC-Hs are 69 Es stolen from Little Rock when they were new. They were AC-130Es for awhile but when -15s were hung on them the series was changed to H. Both airplanes have been through several mods/upgrades over the years. The Talon needs to be changed to MC-130Z to get the E stink off them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Herk Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 SEFEGeorge wrote: I\'m not at all easy about the Dems being in control of the White House now. I\'m sorely afraid that the troops in the field will suffer, and the country will become a 2nd rate military power. AND in control of both houses of congress...where the real power is - the power of the purse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaprad Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I can\'t see why they would be retired. We have one at Robins right now that surprised me with it\'s condition. Aside from typical usage, it looks in great condition. It would be a shame to get rid of planes like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 only 1 at robins? whats the tail #??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The Rumor I heard was the MC-E may go to BRAC\'d ANG units as trash haulers. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Does anybody know if the four Talon 1\'s that were sent to March AFB for storage are still there? A while back, I heard someone was interested in picking up those airplanes for another program.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Herk Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 bobdaley wrote: The Rumor I heard was the MC-E may go to BRAC\'d ANG units as trash haulers. Bob A little early for April Fool\'s pranks isn\'t it, Bob? Seriously? De-mod for trash hauling? Or trash-haul as-is? You know you only get 5 pallets in there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 What I heard was the four MC\'s at March would be part of it. And that 711 SOS was getting rid of all their MC\'s. Politics, money and jobs are driving the idea. No pol wants to lose a Guard unit. They don\'t have to be effective, just keep the pork flowing. We flew around for a long while with C-130B-II\'s, the 59 models. We could not carry anything because they had not removed the welded Intell structures from inside the cargo compartment. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc130fe Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Just spent a rough weekend at March on a cross country msn...yes MC-E X 4 are still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamMcGowan Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Actually, the MC-130E is an E-model with a few modifications. I was at Pope in the 779th when we first got them. They only thing different about them was the Fulton system on the nose and terrian following radar that came off the B-52s. There was no radio operators station or any of the other stuff that was added later. They started showing up at Pope in the summer of 1965. Now, I doubt if they have the time or endured thr kind of punishment the other E-models did in SEA since they weren\'t being used in the crash and dash role out in the boonies. Bowers says there were only about 15-20 missions over North Vietnam and most of those were flown by the DUCK HOOK C-123s. The Stray Goose guys picked up the FACT SHEET mission that the Naha A-models had been flying for several years so they could maintain proficiency operating in hostile airspace. They flew conventional missions supplying SOG teams at the forward fields on the Laotian border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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