AMPTestFE Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Would appreciate any help with this. I know of two people in the country who can administer the FAA turbo-prop eval, the problem is that they now have to fly with you on the aircraft. Being an active duty guy, they both are not authorized on flight orders. I otherwise have no way of getting them on board one of our Hercs. Does anyone know what we\'re missing here? Is there a waiver format out there somewhere to AFI 11-401 that I can get ahold of? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lownslow Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Pete, I don\'t have my AFI references right in front of me but there are provisions in there to fly FAA people on our aircraft for various reasons. We just did it with one of our other aircraft so we could get an STC. Did something change on the FAA side that doesn\'t allow them to do the check in a simulator now? Thats how Rob and I did ours last summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPTestFE Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Yes, there is provisions for having FAA employees on board, on flight orders. The problem is, these two guys aren\'t FAA employees...unless you count just being a designated examiner. What the hell is karma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lownslow Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I think they do count as FAA examiners for the purpose of that rule. Look over to the right side of the text box at the up and down thumbs. Don\'t know what they do either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathis051606 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 There is a waiver for FAA check airmen. Also, if you can push it up through your squadron it would make thing a whole lot easier. We have a person in AWACS that will flight check our guys, he\'s not in the Air Force but he is in a sister service. It was fairly easy for us to get him permission to fly with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPTestFE Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 As far as my leadership goes, there\'s a big difference between FAA examiners and FAA employees. A DER is an FAA examiner, but neither one of these guys are FAA employees....in the sense that they do not receive any compensation from the FAA for their work. Any idea where to find this waiver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 why don\'t you ask Fritz Wester, He is a designated examiner and owns TBM. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPTestFE Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Yes, he is one of the two I\'m talking about. He\'s not an FAA employee, only a designated examiner representative. I e mailed him, maybe he can help. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lownslow Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I would ask A3V for a read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I have a question on that too. Years ago I went out and got an FAA Turbo Jet FE License. At the same time I took and past the Turbo Prop writtens. Sometime after that I heard that they had done away with the different ratings, Turbojet, Turbo prop, Recip, and that there was just one FE license. Is that true? Thanks Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lownslow Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I got mine last year. On the back, under ratings, it says \"Flight Engineer Turbopropeller Powered\" I\'m guessing they still differentiate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 As far as I can tell looking at the FAA web site. there is still different ratings for turbojet and turbo props. I didnt find anything to differentiate turbo props and recips. My best guess would be, any company would be responsible for training and maintaining specific equiptment type quals. HOWEVER..... this was just at a glance on the FAA website. I could probly find some more specific info from an examiner buddy next time I talk to him. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPTestFE Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 There are three FAA flight engineer ratings. FEX, FET, & FEN (Turbojet, turboprop, & recip). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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