mc130fe Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 With USSOCOM/AFSOC losing its AC-27/JCA, I wonder what else is on the chopping block. It seems everytime you turn around something else is losing funding. http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2009/05/airforce_JCA_socom_050109/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTII Raven Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 With USSOCOM/AFSOC losing its AC-27/JCA, I wonder what else is on the chopping block. It seems everytime you turn around something else is losing funding. http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2009/05/airforce_JCA_socom_050109/Been an interesting few weeks but will be an even more interesting few months ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EClark Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I would say it is going to be a very instersting 4to 8 years when it comes to the DOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc130fe Posted May 2, 2009 Author Share Posted May 2, 2009 CTII Raven...I know exactly what you mean....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railrunner130 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I'm hoping a happy compromise can be made on the defense budget. Aircraft procurement needs to be top priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZHill Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Yeh need another 747 so The prez can make daily flyovers. RZ Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 They don't need AC-27 with the new USMC A/KC-130J Gunships coming! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrote Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Last I heard they had put the USMC gunship project to bed. Has anyone heard anything different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZHill Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 It has been replaced by a AC-747, flown personally by the "anointed One" himself. He is the worst micromanager ever. RZ HIll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEC130 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 KC-130J gunship is still a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmac_Project Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 With all the problems that the AC-130U +4 program had with the testing of the 30mm bushmaster gun (rumored), why does the USMC think it will work in their K/AC-130J concept???????? Engine Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airnav Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 With all the problems that the AC-130U +4 program had with the testing of the 30mm bushmaster gun (rumored), why does the USMC think it will work in their K/AC-130J concept???????? Engine Mike Good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTII Raven Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 With all the problems that the AC-130U +4 program had with the testing of the 30mm bushmaster gun (rumored), why does the USMC think it will work in their K/AC-130J concept???????? Engine MikePerhaps something was learned from the +4 program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hope they choose better ammo than plus four had for their tests. Also, where the gun(s) are mounted will make a big difference. There is a strong 68hz vibration forward of the props on 4-blade airplanes, although that may be different on 6-blades. I haven't seen the numbers on the J-models yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronc Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 The 25mm on the U-model works just fine! Maybe they can do it without Boeings help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmac_Project Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 The Bushmaster was to replace the maintenance intensive 25mm gatlin, and the parts scarse 40mm Bolfours. If the vibration is that bad in the forward position them maybe they only should be used in the Bolfour's position. Food For Thought, Engine Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronc Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) It had the same problem in the # 2 position just my opinion possibly something with the mount Boeing used Edited May 12, 2009 by Ronc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Herk Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) How's the vibe with the new 8-bladed prop and electronic valve housing? Undersand there's 2 gunships already fitted - anyone confirm? Rumor is Gunships get 'em, then Talons. Edited May 14, 2009 by US Herk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc130fe Posted May 14, 2009 Author Share Posted May 14, 2009 Now US Herk you know we can't comment on the testing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wilson Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 It has been replaced by a AC-747, flown personally by the "anointed One" himself. He is the worst micromanager ever. RZ HIll Now you are really doing someone a disfavor with that statement! You totally disregarded that assklown Gate's, after all you look at obongo's butt and all you see is gate's shoes:eek: Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryRobinson Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Air Force Special Operations Command will stick with the C-130 to fill its gunship gap after its plan to acquire and convert light cargo planes fell apart in the sweeping budget changes announced last month. AFSOC flies two dozen AC-130 gunships and will grow the force by converting an unknown number of MC-130W Combat Spears, a night-flying Special Operations Command support plane outfitted with aerial refueling tanks. The MC-130W was instituted in 2006 to replace combat losses of the MC-130E/H Combat Talon, which was used mainly for snake-eater air drops. AC-130s are in high demand in Iraq and Afghanistan, and finding more gunship capability is a top priority for Special Operations Command, Defense Department Comptroller Robert Hale told reporters May 7. AFSOC had all but sealed a deal to acquire 16 C-27s as part of the Joint Cargo Aircraft program until Army funding for the program was stripped from the fiscal 2010 budget. But the MC-130W has important advantages over the JCA, according to Vice Adm. Steve Stanley, director for force structure, resources and assessment. “They’re aircraft that exist,†Stanley said at the same budget briefing. “They’re already plumbed for the refueling capability, which will provide them the time on station that, in this case, SOCOM requires.†According to data from the Air Force, AFSOC plans to acquire 12 of the non-gunship MC-130Ws. AFSOC has confirmed the gunship plan but did not give specifics as to what the weapon configuration would be on the Combat Spear or the number of gunships AFSOC will convert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wysongj Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Wow, maybe my old girl will become a gunship. Back when we lost our 88's the rumor was that most were going to become gunships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc130fe Posted May 16, 2009 Author Share Posted May 16, 2009 Beleive me...everything comes full circle. Just wait and see what happens next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPTestFE Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 "The MC-130W was instituted in 2006 to replace combat losses of the MC-130E/H Combat Talon, which was used mainly for snake-eater air drops." Since when did we lose an MC-130Es in recent combat.....didn't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Davenport Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 "The MC-130W was instituted in 2006 to replace combat losses of the MC-130E/H Combat Talon, which was used mainly for snake-eater air drops." Since when did we lose an MC-130Es in recent combat.....didn't think so. The last MC-130E loss was many years ago in the PI on a night NVG approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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