PAUL H WI Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 What were the names of the crew of 74-1683 who lost there lives at Pope Feb 13 1983 and what was the cause of that crash. Six crew members were lost that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Don't know of an accident Feb 83 at Pope, also 74-1683 was the Credible Sport YMC-130H that crashed at Eglin 29 Oct 1980? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 The only two Dyess FY 1974 airplanes lost at Pope were 74-1681 (msn 4654) that crashed in 1989 dropping a Sheridan tank when the load hung up. A LAPES, I think. The other was 74-1693 (msn 4693) w/o after a ground fire. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Dyess was tough on those 1974 H models 4597 74-1662 C130H W/O 08/96 40AS Flew into Mountain Jackson Hole WY 4623 74-1672 C130H W/O 09/81 DYS Wg Landed short NVG's NV 4645 74-1678 C130H W/O 04/82 774TAS Wing Broke Turkey 4654 74-1681 C130H W/O 08/89 DYS Wg Heavy Equipment Drop Pope AFB 4658 74-1683 C130H YMC130H W/O 10/80 AFSOC Credible Sport Test 4693 74-1693 C130H W/O 02/83 DYS Ground Fire Pope AFB 4659 74-2064 C130H W/O 03/80 773TAS Explosion Turkey 4694 74-2068 C130H W/O 06/83 DYS Stall Low Level NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Hey, are you guys sure 1681 was a LAPES? I remember it as a night drop at Sicily; for some reason they had to racetrack and the LMs didn't follow checklist . . . ended up trying to drop the tank with the locks still in the platform. One load went aft to cut the extraction chutes free and fell out; the plane couldn't overcome the drag of the three 28 footers and crashed. If I remember right, the other load lost a leg but there weren't any other major injuries. The only Pope LAPES crash that I remember was the well-documented Pope incident. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Hi You are correct Thanks, I think I changed it but I am computer challenged. Here is what I have on it: Heavy Equipment Drop with 2 28 foot extraction chutes. Crew had to racetrack after the 1 minute warning. Loads relocked the pallets but forgot to unlock them, when the chutes went out it caused the aircraft to decelerate. One of the loads went back to cut the chute and fell out. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAUL H WI Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Want to find out when SRA PAMELA K MYERS BECAME CC OF 74-1678 Is there any body on this site who knows or knows somebody who do's. send me a post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbob Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 FYI in regards to the Pope heavy equip crash are y'all sure the load that went aft fell out? I thought he was killed when the load shifted after ground impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I reported that he fell out based on a report way back in 2001 from Kim Anding, a crew member from Dyess in 1989. He wrote "HE drop, 2 28 foot extraction chutes.Crew had to race track, relocked the platform then "forgot" to unlock it. Charles "Red" Alfred went aft to cut the extraction line and fell out" Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnichols Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 "Red" Alfred and I went through instructor school together. We were both at Dyess, me in the 773 TAS and he in the 772 TAS. Good friends. I had pcs to 1 SOS at Clark AB and was returning from deployment to states for exercise. At layover in Guam, read about the accident in Stars and Stripes newspaper. Reading above posts, info is basically correct from what I heard. A no drop called with a short racetrack and hurried checklist contributed to forgetting the locks. Red tried pulling the simul handle on the left locks, but due the force applied to the locks from the extraction chutes, locks would not release. He struggled to get around the load to the rear. I did not hear about Red falling out, but, just at impact, he was on ramp trying to cut extraction line and that was when he was killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnichols Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Knew SRA Pam Meyers. She was my crew chief during rotation to Europe in 1981 while on runs in and out of Berlin for a week. She was a great person and knew her job. All of enlisted were put into one large room there in Berlin so we all hug out together when off duty. She held her own. Was very sad when I heard of her crash and I wasn't a very happen person when the cause was released. Totally unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon (Gaines) Worley Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Mar 14, 1980 Joseph and Paul Johnson sons of MSgt Joe Johnson and Wife Maria, a beautiful and close family were all friends of mine. Joseph and Paul were members of the band. My husband at the time worked with MSgt Johnson in the hospital at Incirlik. MSgt Johnson was the 1st Sgt. In 1984 we visited the Johnsons at their home in Spain. Please contact me if you have any information about the Johnson family. Such a terrible loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoseman Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 I knew pat cypher we called him cy and hope hes at peace and all those who serve god bless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoseman Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Ps dose anyone know tom kay 773rd tas one of my friends when i flew.Hope he made it to retirement if he stayed in.or got out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartoum Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I know the 1980 crash happened, even though I was about 9 at the time. My dad was on Duty that night in Turkey, and had a call to the states for his anniversary. Called my mom and gave list of names and numbers to call for a few folks who were NOT on the plane. He wound up basically locking down the entire communications for the base through him that night because there was a function that the higher ranking officers were at. Interesting to find this in the depths of the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Levesque Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 On 4/8/2011 at 8:40 PM, lmonkey43 said: It is most definitely true. I unfortunately lost my beloved uncle in that crash. I was supposedly caused by a lightning strike. I am looking for living relatives of the Dyess airmen lost in that crash. Please email me at [email protected]. I am volunteering my time for the Abilene Chamber's Military Affairs Committee, which is building the Dyess Memorial Park. You can read more about it here: https://dyessmemorialpark.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Levesque Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 On 12/28/2016 at 6:45 AM, bobdaley said: I reported that he fell out based on a report way back in 2001 from Kim Anding, a crew member from Dyess in 1989. He wrote "HE drop, 2 28 foot extraction chutes.Crew had to race track, relocked the platform then "forgot" to unlock it. Charles "Red" Alfred went aft to cut the extraction line and fell out" Bob Bob, I am looking for living relatives of the Dyess airmen lost in that crash. Please email me at [email protected]. I am volunteering my time for the Abilene Chamber's Military Affairs Committee, which is building the Dyess Memorial Park. You can read more about it here: https://dyessmemorialpark.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Barnette MD Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 My name is Mary Barnette. My father was Lt. Col Ben Barnette, navigator of the C-130 that was lost outside of Incirlik AFB, Turkey on March 14, 1980. We were told that it was a lightening strike that took down the plane. We had just moved from Incirlik AFB the summer before to Abilene. I remember there being alot of military unrest in Adana. We lived on the main street of Adana and the brick wall around our apartment complex had been dynamited leaving a large hole in it before we left. There were several military parades on the street with tanks around that time. I would not be surprised if the real story was a missile attack. I hope it was lightening. That is easier to swallow. I just wanted to say that I am forever grateful to all of you who worked in the mud protecting and identifying our loved ones remains. I have visited the memorial at Dyess AFB. It is very nice. Thank you to those of you who created that to honor our fallen. I am told that there is also a memorial plaque at Incirlik that the crews salute every time they enter the building. I am so honored to know that you still take the time to remember my father and his crew. Thank you to all of you who have served. God Bless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Perhaps Plaprad you were living under a rock. You should probably learn how to use google before you open your pie hole! I had flown 17 hours of flight time from Dyess to Goose Bay Canada then across the pond to Mildenhall England. That plane landed with only 2 write ups. It was spare for the next day and sure enough off they went. My best friend was one of the Crew Chiefs on that ACFT and the night before he left he had asked me to be the best man in his wedding that would never happen! I’ve read so many accounts of what happened that it makes me sick to my stomach. Turkey is a shithole and that’s my opinion from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyOrdie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 2/19/2015 at 6:37 AM, Jim Caudill said: Mr. Caudill (and anyone else who might have information), My father, Thomas Terrell, was killed in the 1982 crash. He was a civilian. I know very little about why he was there and on that flight. I'd really like to find out more. I appreciate any information you can provide. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
writerlou Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 9/4/2016 at 11:52 PM, warrior41882 said: I was stationed with the 453rd OMS Dyess AFB 81-83. I worked ISO, however being an airman that lost strips before I got them I was working the Wash Rack that week with Airman Williams. (we're still best friends) April 13 1982 AC,74-1678 crashed over turkey. I forget what time it was when we heard, We all knew it was Pam's plane, hit me hard as she had kinda taken me under her wing. As I remember Airman Mark Deerzack was also on board, however I can find no info on that. I was at the funeral, I especially remember the C-130 fly over. Something is very odd as I found an old Turkey news paper clipping referring to that crash, Same date, same engine separation result everything except the names of the dead. Mark Nor Pam are listed. Just discovered this thread. Yes, my brother, Mark Dzierzak, was on that flight. I spoke with him a few days before. I know his name was listed on a plaque at an Abilene hospital or clinic. A long time ago. Miss him every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunstad Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 My brother was Airman Mark Allen Hunstad, he died on the March 14 1980 crash. Mark was a member of the band Ballse', he was the lead singer. I was 16 at the time of his death. He talked highly of the other band members and the friendship they had. We have several cassette tapes of the band playing. They loved to play rock and were anti-disco which was all the rage at the time. It's fun to listen to them play, the crowd really got into the songs. I've always wondered if any video existed of them playing. God bless all those who died that day. In ways it still feels like yesterday! If any family members would like to talk, I would love to share any stories. Mike Hunstad - 319-310-8580 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I was stationed at Det 98 Erzurum Turkey when the C130 crashed. Carl C.Carr I knew personally. I have his last photo that I took before we left to meet the C130 at the air field. If a family member sees this you can contact me and I will send it. Also our mess hall was named Carl C. Carr Hall in his honor. I was a Spec.4 in Erzurum 1979-1980. Louis Erthal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I forgot to include my email. [email protected]. Lou Erthal 1979-1980 Det 98 Erzurum Turkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukid Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Have thought a lot about the 1980 crash.you see my band, country unlimited, was supposed to go on the first flight around the sites, but, due to an alert, all our members could not go. We played at the club that night when they told us the plane had gone down. All lost. I had heard the lightning or missile cause as well. Still I wonder. I rotated before any other morale flights, if there were any. I was saddened by loss of life, especially their drummer because he was not military, we know we take a chance every day, he didn't have to. And then it hits that that could have have my band...me...and that is sobering. To their families though it was long time ago, sorry for your loss. I cant believe I finally found something about that event. Reading has brought back a lot of emotions. I was ssgt jim howard, air transportation air freight, whatever you want tocall it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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