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I notice from a couple of recent photos taken on the production line that

in addition to the serial number painted on the nose, there is what i assume

to be a contract or batch number. Can anybody enlarge on the details or

previous batch number ranges etc?

s/n 5633/5634 73J01/73J02 The first 2 of the AFSOC HC-130j order

s/n 5619/5620 44J43/44J44 are these frame 43/44 of the USMC KC-130J order?

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The second number after the production number is the Lockheed model designation. All the different J variants have their own designator, i.e. 72J= KC-130J, 73J= HC/MC, 44J= USAF C-130J-30. The number after the J is the number of that series aircraft; 73J01 being the first HC-130J, 44J43 being the 43rd USAF C-130J-30. I have the complete variant list on my desk, but I am TDY this week and those are the ones I know off the top of my head. 5619 and 5620 are not tankers, they are USAF C-130J-30's.

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Major update thanks to info from LM, current as of 22 Feb 11:

Lockheed Martin Version Numbers

48F = C-130J prototypes

49F = RAF C-130J prototypes

01J = RAF C-130J production prototypes

02J = Prototype EC-130J

03J = RAAF

04J = Prototype WC-130J

05J = RAF C.4 (-30)

06J = RAF C.5

07J = Early WC-130J

08J = Early USAF C-130J

09J = Early EC-130J

11J = Early KC-130J

12J = WC-130J

13J = Early AMI C-130J

16J = USAF C-130J

17J = Early EC-130J

30J = Early USAF C-130J-30

31J = AMI C-130J

32J = EC-130J

33J = Early KC-130J

34J = AMI -30

35J = USCG HC-130J

36J = RDAF

37J = Early USAF C-130J-30

38J = Early KC-130J

44J = USAF C-130J-30

45J = Single RDAF C-130J-30

46J = RNoAF

47J = Canada CC-130J

50J = India

51J = Qatar

52J = Iraq

53J = Royal Flight of Oman

54J = UAE

55J = Tunisia

56J = Israel C-130J-30

57J = South Korea

72J = USMC KC-130J

73J = USAF HC/MC-130J

75J = Kuwait KC-130J

85J = Royal Air Force of Oman

86J = Second batch USCG HC-130J

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According to Lars' book, 35J is assigned to the USCG.

The WC's are confusing. The first 3 are 04J, then the next 4 are 07J and the last 3 are 12J. Don't know what the differences are.

The EC's of the 193SOS are 32J, although the have some C-130J's as 17J.

The short USAF Hercs are at Maryland ANG's 135th AS. They are 08J and 16J.

The AMI's -30's are 34J.

Don R.

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As the Lochheed Martin usage is "version number", I will try to use this term more.

Has anyone seen this version number anywhere after painting? Does it appear on any official documents post delivery?

I'm confused again -- nothing new there, though. I have the model specification book from Lockheed that came with the delivery of PJ-TAC (5225) to Frameair. As you can see on the first page, it's listed as a 382G-44K-30. In Lars' book, it's listed as a 382G-70C. The other one that was built for Frameair, but never delivered was a 382G-71C. It was bought by the Canadian Forces and converted from a L-100 to a C-130H-30.

At the bottom of the introduction page of this book is an explanation of the production model designation. It says that the 44K designates the powerplant identification. I'm beginning to think that the 382G-44K-30 is a different number than the 392G-70C. Any comments?

Don R.

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It seems there might be two things going on here. I think the format that appears in Lars' books may be a frame number, similar to the new version numbers.

382G (civilian) -70C (Frame 70?)

382G (civilian) -44K (powerplant) -30 (stretched) makes sense as a model number.

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It seems there might be two things going on here. I think the format that appears in Lars' books may be a frame number, similar to the new version numbers.

382G (civilian) -70C (Frame 70?)

382G (civilian) -44K (powerplant) -30 (stretched) makes sense as a model number.

Jansen,

I would agree with your explanation except for the fact that all the Hercs in Lars' book, whether it's a C-130 or an L-100, are listed as a model number 382; i.e., when I randomly pick an airframe from his book, the L-100-30 (5056) flown by Prescott is listed as a 382G-68C whille all of Taiwan's C-130H's (5058 thru 5067) are listed as 382C-69E. Of course, the A-models are listed as "182's" and the B's as "282's."

Don R.

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Jansen,

I would agree with your explanation except for the fact that all the Hercs in Lars' book, whether it's a C-130 or an L-100, are listed as a model number 382; i.e., when I randomly pick an airframe from his book, the L-100-30 (5056) flown by Prescott is listed as a 382G-68C whille all of Taiwan's C-130H's (5058 thru 5067) are listed as 382C-69E. Of course, the A-models are listed as "182's" and the B's as "282's."

Don R.

The 382C is one model, not sure myself don't have the book with the complete breakdown, but a guess would say short "H"

The 382G is another, as Jansen pointed out the Civilian model, and quite possibly a -30, with the -20 being another letter designation 382F ???

The 382U is the short "J", for example

The 382V is the Stretched "J" for example.

The question is why on the the spec sheet the OP has states the aircraft model number is 382G-44K-30 and Lar's book has the same aircraft listed as 382G-70C. What is the 70C?? and or for that matter -68C?? -69E?? as listed by the two aircraft you posted...

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The question is why on the the spec sheet the OP has states the aircraft model number is 382G-44K-30 and Lar's book has the same aircraft listed as 382G-70C. What is the 70C?? and or for that matter -68C?? -69E?? as listed by the two aircraft you posted...

OK, a friend of mine at Lockheed straightened me out. I was comparing the proverbial apples and oranges. The "382G-44K-30" is the Lockheed model number. The "382G-70C" is the version number.

Actually, the "C" suffix in the version number designates the H-model and "T" is the H-30. As for the commercial versions, the "B" suffix is an L-100, "E" is the L-100-20 and "G" is the L-100-30.

Another mystery solved!

As for Jansen's original question, I don't know if the version number appears on any documents after delivery. I do know it's not printed in the model specification book for 5225.

Don R.

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Apparently some of the information I received was incorrect. I have a new document from LM I received a couple of days ago that corrects it all. It seems to be definitive, as it contains all of the LM model version numbers for all C-130s delivered.

This is the link to the earlier post which I have now updated: http://herkybirds.com/showthread.php?1865-Contract-Batch-Numbers&p=17694#post17694

There are a total of 42 version numbers for the C-130J.

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OK, a friend of mine at Lockheed straightened me out. I was comparing the proverbial apples and oranges. The "382G-44K-30" is the Lockheed model number. The "382G-70C" is the version number.

Actually, the "C" suffix in the version number designates the H-model and "T" is the H-30. As for the commercial versions, the "B" suffix is an L-100, "E" is the L-100-20 and "G" is the L-100-30.

Another mystery solved!

As for Jansen's original question, I don't know if the version number appears on any documents after delivery. I do know it's not printed in the model specification book for 5225.

Don R.

Thanks for the info....

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