Wil Sanchez Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 My wife and I recently made a trip to Davis Monthan AFB near Tucson Arizona. I felt the need to visit some of the planes I have worked on that are no longer in use and can be found only in Museums. I took 547 photos of planes in the Private Junkyards near the base, on the bus tour of the Boneyard and the Pima Air and Space Museum. I am posting some of the Herks I saw on the trip. I was also amazed at the number of planes I have never seen before. The 1st photo was taken while we were at one of the private junkyards. It was doing touch and goes and I decided to take a photo of it. My Wife made a comment about the Shark's mouth painted on it. I informed her that they didn't paint Shark Mouths on Herks. (don't I feel stupid after viewing the photo). The 2nd photo is 64-0502. The 3rd photo is 62-1864. The 4th photo is BOO. The 5th photo is a Silver Herk. Enjoy Wil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Sanchez Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 Here are some more photos from D-M AFB. The 1st is lots of Herks. The 2nd is below the Pilots window and shows the CC. This is 1 of 2 Herks at the Pima Air and Space Museum. The 3rd is a YC-14 supposed to be a replacement for the Herk. The 4th and 5th are of a Stainless Steel plane called a Conestoga which is welded instead of riveted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyclark Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 The tiger teeth/shark's teeth belong to the 23Wing, Flying Tigers at Moody AFB. It is, thankfully, only painted on our two e-models that will be retiring this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 (edited) BOO is149800 USMC, silver herk is 94-6703 IL ANG going through PDM at AMARG I think 62-1832 at DM has the shark's mouth too? Bob Edited May 16, 2010 by bobdaley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleagle Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Hey Ya'll! I spent my first 14yrs in the cops (Security side) - had to take a remote to get a BOP (instead of getting sent back to Grand Forks). Finally landed up at DM circa 1992. The Law Enforcement side "worked" the gates to the AMARC/boneyard. On weekends (AMARC was closed) I'd vol' to "take" the AMARC post - a full eight hour tour as far as I was concerned. They still had quite the count on the B-52D's ("Big Belly") waiting for the final chop. There were a few Herk's but not in lines - scattered about. The one problem we had was the furthest point of the AMARC from the gates were a good distance out and had a smattering of 707's from different airlines (no idea why - can' them for parts?) At any rate it was not uncommon to find homeless folks had set up a homestead, usually in the old airliners. Years later, after the retrain I had a chance to see the back 40 again - they'd cleared out most of the BUFF's and airliners...... I did post the pic of the Coast G. 130 on the old page, not sure if it's still accessable. Fleagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donwon Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Is tis what we used to call Zantop at Nahe in the 60,s? http://herkybirds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1132&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1273987265 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmat Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 The Air Force used the 707s to re-engine the KC-135As. They replaced the KC-135A turbojets with 707 turbofans. The re-engined KC-135As became KC-135Es. They also used some other parts, but I forget what they were. Best wishes, Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCrewChief Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I thought 0502 went to Elemendorf for Static when it left Ramstein? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thud105 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 GMAT, They also used the horizontal stabilizers as they were larger than the pre-mod'd 135's and were needed for additional pitch authority for the "new" 707 turbofans (TF-33's ?). Thud105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bischoffm Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I thought 0502 went to Elemendorf for Static when it left Ramstein? That was 64-0533!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topboltsto400 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 cool photos, thanks for sharing. I've been lucky, had a couple of good TDY's recently, ie Tucson, and Indianapolis. Hit the Pima museum, and the AF museum out in Dayton (short drive from Indy). Was down at Hurlburt a few months ago, even hit up P-cola NAS museum as well. Even though I see planes everyday, still like to check the old ones out...feel bad for the 141's, as no one else used them, what is left is it, rest are gone. 1864 and 502...worked on both of them at Pope and Ramstein....probably the desert as well, but that is just a blur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Sanchez Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 Topboltsto400, you are welcome. The following 2 photos show the last C-141 at D-M. They scrapped out 200 just before we were there in late April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Sanchez Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 Donwon, not sure what a Zantop is but here is the info on the plate in front. Wil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Sanchez Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 Looking back over the photos I noticed that B00 is flanked by a YC-14 on the right and a YC-15 on the left. They were both supposed to replace the Herk. I'm glad they didn't because the Herk is my kind of plane. Even the name is great "Hercules". Wil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donwon Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Thanks for the pictures Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Is tis what we used to call Zantop at Nahe in the 60,s? http://herkybirds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1132&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1273987265 donwon, What you propably saw at Naha was Zantop's Armstrong-Whitworth AW-650. Zantop flew them when they bought Universal Airlines. I couldn't find one in Zantop's livery, but the link below shows a pretty good photo of one. Don R. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Elan-Overnight-Delivery/Armstrong-Whitworth-AW-650/0494746/L/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Hmmm looks like the old DHL paint job. Vortex generators look like a bad haircut aft of the cockpit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlg6016 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Some more info on that bird....http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/budd_conestoga.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenmonster Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Topboltsto400, you are welcome. The following 2 photos show the last C-141 at D-M. They scrapped out 200 just before we were there in late April. There's only ONE left now? That sure didn't take long. I always hoped that some of the "low" time airframes would be in long term storage. Thanks for the info. Although I think I'll be depressed for the rest of the day now.:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GACFaja Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 BOO is149800 USMC, silver herk is 94-6703 IL ANG going through PDM at AMARG I think 62-1832 at DM has the shark's mouth too? Bob Yep, that's 1832. She's slated for the boneyard later this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donwon Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Thanks DonR but that isn't the plane. These were twin engine. They were shaped like the one in your picture. They had Zantop painted on the side. They would land and go to a place in front of the hanger and stay only a few minutes then taxi back out and take off. I never got real close to one of them. The first ones that landed there had recip engines, then the same planes started comeing in with turboprop engines. I remember we all were surprised when that happened. Half of this stuff I could be dreaming about as I do have CRS. Thanks for the help. Donwon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSgtRet Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 The Air Force used the 707s to re-engine the KC-135As. They replaced the KC-135A turbojets with 707 turbofans. The re-engined KC-135As became KC-135Es. They also used some other parts, but I forget what they were. Best wishes, Grant When I was at Fairford when we first reopened it, we had a 54 model tanker that had been modded as the TAC flying command post. Lots of the interior fittings we ex-707 airliner stuff the crew chief said came off the airliners at D-M. This would have been 1980ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Looking back over the photos I noticed that B00 is flanked by a YC-14 on the right and a YC-15 on the left. They were both supposed to replace the Herk. I'm glad they didn't because the Herk is my kind of plane. Even the name is great "Hercules". Wil There were two YC-14s and two YC-15s built. Anyone know what happened to the other two acft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec13fe Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 There were two YC-14s and two YC-15s built. Anyone know what happened to the other two acft? The YC14 is at Pima Air Museum and the YC15 is at Edwards. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EClark Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Don I remember the Zantop flights when I was at Sewart they were mostly early morning never shut down the eng's. We heard it was a supply plane with parts I don't really know but it did happen 7 days a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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