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211 and 212 sound more likely to be part of the USAF FMS serial to me?

You know you could be right. I looked at the banner again tonight, and the the Serial Number(customers, not LM's) block it has 5662 & 5663. Can't say that I've seen the customer S/N being the same as the C/N. Though don't know why it couldn't either.

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You know you could be right. I looked at the banner again tonight, and the the Serial Number(customers, not LM's) block it has 5662 & 5663. Can't say that I've seen the customer S/N being the same as the C/N. Though don't know why it couldn't either.

P3,

By customer S/N, do you mean the customer's tail number/registration? If you do, there are a few countries that use the MSN as the registration. France and Morocco come to mind. For what it's worth, Qatar's 2 C-17's have civil registrations A7-MAA and A7-MAB.

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P3,

By customer S/N, do you mean the customer's tail number/registration? If you do, there are a few countries that use the MSN as the registration. France and Morocco come to mind. For what it's worth, Qatar's 2 C-17's have civil registrations A7-MAA and A7-MAB.

Don R.

Ok...

I am refering to the banner that is on the side of the fuselage as it rolls down the line.

There are 5 sets of numbers/designations on each...

LM Serial Number

Model

Version

Customer Serial Number

Tail Number

Attached is an EXAMPLE(note the word EXAMPLE, before some moron comes up trying to say that's not a banner off a Qatar aircraft)

On the Indian Banner both the tail and Serial are the same number, and in most cases it is the same.(which in case, is wrong from what they ended up being, not sure if India changed it, or the guy who makes the banner screwed the pouch)

I think in most cases, unless your Air Farce, the number is the same. (Or in Qatar's C-17, they might be different, as they have civilian tail numbers)

US Navy the numbers would be the same, as they don't use "Tail Numbers" they have what is called modex numbers which is a whole different ball of wax(more so for the tail hooks, than the big boys though)

Also note, the 211 and 212 DID NOT come from "They are the 211th and 12th "J's" produced. They are either 227/228 or 228/229 (can't remember for sure)

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You know you could be right. I looked at the banner again tonight, and the the Serial Number(customers, not LM's) block it has 5662 & 5663. Can't say that I've seen the customer S/N being the same as the C/N. Though don't know why it couldn't either.

The RNoAF's Jay birds use the LM S/N for their tail registrations. You probably worked on 5629 and 5630 around this time last year.

They are either 227/228 or 228/229 (can't remember for sure)

They are 228 and 229.

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The RNoAF's Jay birds use the LM S/N for their tail registrations.

Didn't know that.

You probably worked on 5629 and 5630 around this time last year.

Yep, those were one of the first aircraft I worked on at LM.

Though the 1st Dyess bird(5631?, can't remember how they were sitting for sure.) was the 1st aircraft for me. So I've touched 34 aircraft since I've started. Was working 5663 yesterday.

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New member here, hi guys.

Qatar is unlikely to use 211-214 as tail numbers. As suggested I suspect these look be the last three of the FMS FY serial and the full ones might be:

5662 09-6211

5663 09-6212

5668 09-6213

5669 09-6214

All military aircraft in Qatar use QAxx as tail numbers, the xx two digits in fixed sequential batches for each type. The C-17A Globemaster is the exception, they do have the FMS FY number small on the nose but are commonly noted as MAA and MAB, an abbreviation of civil registrations A7-MAA and A7-MAB. There is an off change the same will occur on the Qatar Super Hercules. Any more info much appreciated.

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Qatar is unlikely to use 211-214 as tail numbers. As suggested I suspect these look be the last three of the FMS FY serial and the full ones might be:

5662 09-6211

5663 09-6212

5668 09-6213

5669 09-6214

All military aircraft in Qatar use QAxx as tail numbers, the xx two digits in fixed sequential batches for each type. The C-17A Globemaster is the exception, they do have the FMS FY number small on the nose but are commonly noted as MAA and MAB, an abbreviation of civil registrations A7-MAA and A7-MAB. There is an off change the same will occur on the Qatar Super Hercules. Any more info much appreciated.

The information I have comes from LM, and we have heard from a guy on the line that confirms it. We all know that registrations change; KC-3801 was originally K3801 on paper. The numbers you have suggested have already been assigned to MC-130J frames.

211 will come out of paint in about a month and I am sure we will have pictures to confirm.

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Thanks for the feedback. The new MC-130Js I see as:

5656 09-6207

5657 09-6208

5658 09-6209

5659 09-6210

5694 08-6204

5695 08-6205

5696 08-6206

5697 TBD

and 5717, 5718, 5719, 5720 and more. Are these FY serials (still) correct? If you can share the MC-130J allocations you know we might learn more (and look at the open batches).

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yup:

08-5601 5601 Norwegian AF as 5601 "Frigg"

09-5607 5607 Norwegian AF as 5607 "Idunn"

10-5629 5629 Norwegian AF as 5629 "Siv"

10-5630 5630 Norwegian AF as 5630 "Nanna"

Qatar could be an exeption but I find that hard to believe, 211-214 must be based on something....

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New member here, hi guys.

Qatar is unlikely to use 211-214 as tail numbers. As suggested I suspect these look be the last three of the FMS FY serial and the full ones might be:

5662 09-6211

5663 09-6212

5668 09-6213

5669 09-6214

All military aircraft in Qatar use QAxx as tail numbers, the xx two digits in fixed sequential batches for each type. The C-17A Globemaster is the exception, they do have the FMS FY number small on the nose but are commonly noted as MAA and MAB, an abbreviation of civil registrations A7-MAA and A7-MAB. There is an off change the same will occur on the Qatar Super Hercules. Any more info much appreciated.

Your list is off, (unless its just pulled out of the air to be used as an example)

5663 and 64 are the first two QATAR ships.

and 5668 & 5669 are Canadian Ships. #12 and #13 for them, tail numbers 130612/613

The 09-6213 numbers look like Air Farce s/n's

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ok thanks

Yep numbers are all running together on me. LOL Been working on 5664 all week and for some reason still had 51J02 in my brain for the version. Sorry about that.

C/Ns are pretty much a worthless number to me as far as work. We use the version number instead on the floor. So sometimes they tend to run together. lol

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