SEFEGeorge Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 It's been a while for me, 25 years, but there use to be C-130A, B, E, H, HC-H, HC-N, and HC-P designations. The HC-H and P's had the Fulton radome. Did they change all the designations, etc? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyChief Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Well..you had some AFSOC HC-130N/P redesignated as MC-130Ps, although the CA ANG flew some P's as rescue..figure that one out. EC-130H..jammers and other secret squirrel stuff EC-130J..flying Television studio and WKRP of the air..and I'm sure even more secret squirrel stuff The new MC-130W..but I'm told that might be changed to AC-130W..not sure if that's happening or not. Of course you have the AC-130H and AC-130U Gunpigs..errr..ships. Then hero's of the skies, MC-130E and MC-130H Talons. Last, but not least..the new kids on the block..HC-130J and MC-130J..essentially the same aircraft now but spiral development will change that quick. Plus there is the odd TC-130H and NC-130H floating around out there. There may be more..but that's what I recall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 If you check page 139 of Lars Olausson's latest book, you'll find 5 pages of C-130 designations; WC, LC, RC, GC, JC, KC, VC, DC to name a few. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 Thanks but not what I meant. I was more curious about the HC-H/P/Ns (radome, etc) and what happened when A/R pods were added to the E's (from the looks of it). Looks like the Es were given the A/R pods and MC designation. It appears that the HC-Hs were given A/R pods, regular radomes, and made MC-Ps. The standard designations I know, AC, DC, EC, HC, etc..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 The standard designations I know, AC, DC, EC, HC, etc..... Guess I read too much into your question. Never could handle check rides very well. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Is that why you didn't get very far as an FE...ha ha. Just kiddin' Don. Couldn't pass that one up. Bill P.S. I crumped my first upgrade check ride as a 141 FE...about a million years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrkaegi Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Test group in Hawaii had P's and used as refuels for the H-53. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1685FCC Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Thanks but not what I meant. I was more curious about the HC-H/P/Ns (radome, etc) and what happened when A/R pods were added to the E's (from the looks of it). Looks like the Es were given the A/R pods and MC designation. It appears that the HC-Hs were given A/R pods, regular radomes, and made MC-Ps. The standard designations I know, AC, DC, EC, HC, etc..... The only thing I can tell you George is the MC-P's we had in Mildenhall had the regular radome's with the cut-out for FLIR. All the Shadow's there were formally HC-N's (you could still see the shape of the Hump on the top of the fuselage) and 69 series frames as well (mine was 69-5828). The did a huge swap over with Kadena and I believe most sent up there (Shadow's) were of the 66 series variety and had Fulton Recovery noses on them. Sorry I couldn't be much help, but I hope it helped a bit? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Guess what I was getting at was when I was flying the HC-H's and P's at Hickam had the Fulton radome and the HC-N we borrowed when we had a P in depot had the regular radome. Now it looks like they all have the regular radome and are called P's, including the H's that were given pods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyChief Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 You'll have to get it confirmed through an ACC guy..but I beleive when they upgraded the radar, they all went to the standard 130 radome..regardless of designation. I know in AFSOC, they were all designated MC-130P's, no matter if they had the old fulton radome or not. However, as a matter of practicallity, we tried to keep the overseas bases the same..one with fulton nose..the other non-fulton. By the time I retired..that had pretty much become an impracticality. Not sure what the present status is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Herk Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (you could still see the shape of the Hump on the top of the fuselage) ...and hence the nickname changed from "humpy" to "scarback" ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wilson Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 George All the HC-H's got pods and were redesignated HC-130P's Many HC-P and HC-N were moved to AFSICK back in the early 90's or late 80's In 95 or 96 we re-designated all of our (AFSOC's) HC-P/N's to MC-130P and MC-130N; the reason was to allow us to dip into a different pot of money that the HC designation prevented. The most confusing move was in 97 when they changed all the MC-130N's to MC-130P's even though they still had the non Fulton radomes, they say for standardization. So All MC-130N's are now MC-130P's so you had P models with two different drag indexes Also the re-designation from HC to MC was done regardless of mods to the birds, SOFI and Dumb birds alike were re-designated. Rescue still fly's HC-130P's N's and J's and the H's are all re-designated P's when they put the pods on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Thanks Dan. Sound like a cluster-f*** for the FEs and performance calcs. Sounds worse that when I pulled out the wrong -1-1 or whiz wheel at LRF and had to redo TOLD data - E's vs 73 H's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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