Railrunner130 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 As I recall, during the Falklands war, the Argentinians briefly used a C-130 as a bomber. Does anyone know how they did it? (slung on the pylons, extracted out the back, gravity dropped?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I don't know how they dropped them but here are some pics Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Nice pics Bob. Those appear to be standard U.S. made BRU-41 MER racks we used on our fighters till bout 1990. Each position fired a squib to push the bomb away from the rack. Would be interesting to know how or if they aimed them. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Nice pics Bob. Those appear to be standard U.S. made BRU-41 MER racks we used on our fighters till bout 1990. Each position fired a squib to push the bomb away from the rack. Would be interesting to know how or if they aimed them. Bill Old Norton bomb sites? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railrunner130 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 Wow! Thanks for posting those photos Bob! I'd guess the Herk was used because of the long range. They probably used airdrop computations for release points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen05 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 The last two or three seconds are amazing, watching the feathers ruffle and the wings swell. See the trailing flaps go down, the rudder correct for displacement from center line, the leading edge devices deploy, the landing gear extend. Interesting to watch the corrections in the flight path as the bird comes in. Seems to be a cross-wind from his right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATOPS1 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Allen must not be on the correct ILS WAVE OFF!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflimbach Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Nice pics Bob. Those appear to be standard U.S. made BRU-41 MER racks we used on our fighters till bout 1990. Each position fired a squib to push the bomb away from the rack. Would be interesting to know how or if they aimed them. Bill Pretty simple ballistic calculation at C-130 speeds. Or, you could just hang your standard HELLFIRE rack, get yourself a laser designator, and Voila! [ATTACH=CONFIG]3275[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]3276[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]3277[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]3278[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The last two or three seconds are amazing, watching the feathers ruffle and the wings swell. See the trailing flaps go down, the rudder correct for displacement from center line, the leading edge devices deploy, the landing gear extend. Interesting to watch the corrections in the flight path as the bird comes in. Seems to be a cross-wind from his right. Sorry to hijack this thread again, but I thought that verbage sounded familiar. Don R. http://www.c-130hercules.net/showthread.php?t=3402 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Sorry to hijack this thread again, but I thought that verbage sounded familiar. Don R. http://www.c-130hercules.net/showthread.php?t=3402 Very odd.....I'll keep an eye on the account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfManJ Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Never heard of the Argentinian C-130 bomber, but it makes sense as a bomb truck. I guess the latest version of the C-130 bomber would be the USMC Harvest HAWK configuration on their KC-130Js. 4 Hellfires and EO/IR targeting pod on the left external tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Always thought that the Herc would make a decent bomber. Easier to calc the CARP, more accurate with dumb bombs, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railrunner130 Posted February 3, 2013 Author Share Posted February 3, 2013 I can't imagine that bombs on the pylons (or the release thereof) would be helpful with preventing wing fatigue issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfManJ Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 The wings are already designed to carry pylons and external tanks at that hard point, which weigh about 9,000 lb each when full. And the external tanks act to reduce the wing-root bending moment during flight by counteracting wing lift. The drag load from the bombs is probably different, and I'm not sure of the effect of the response from bomb release. But one could probably configure for bombs occasionally without a significant increase in wing fatigue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 The wings are already designed to carry pylons and external tanks at that hard point, which weigh about 9,000 lb each when full. And the external tanks act to reduce the wing-root bending moment during flight by counteracting wing lift. The drag load from the bombs is probably different, and I'm not sure of the effect of the response from bomb release. But one could probably configure for bombs occasionally without a significant increase in wing fatigue. You sure about that 9,000 lb comment for the outboard hard point? I don't think that refueling pods weigh anywhere near that much. The inboard hard point I can see the 9K, max external tank fuel is 9,100 lbs if memory serves. Nor do I think that the equipment that the ECs hang on the outboard hard points is anywhere near 9K. If the outboard hard points do have a rating of 9K then someone sure missed a chance to hang another external tank, etc., there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltsload Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 If I remember correctly, the outer hard point was rated for 5,000 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfManJ Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Sorry, I should have been more clear: I was referring to the Argentinian bomber configuration, which has the bomb rack mounted at the inboard hardpoint. Alternatively, the Harvest HAWK has Hellfires mounted on the outboard pylon. Hellfires are a pretty light load compared the 6 bomb cluster on the Argentinian C-130. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve haigler Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 One mission I believe they sent a bomb out the back of a C-130 and it actually hit the target ship and rolled off the deck only to explode overboard. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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