JimH Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Lately I've seen several videos and still photos of Heavy Equipment drops and I have noticed that the anchor cable arms are retracted during the drop. When I was doing this (1966-79) the checklist said to put the arms down as soon as the ramp and door were open... what's up?? - Did they change the procedure? JimH C130 LM/ILM 1966-1979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenFE Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Anchor cable arms are extended for troop door personnel and CDS drops but not Heavy's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleagle Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Can't speak to those years, SLCS & PEFTC were still taught when I re-trained `93. Those were both on the way "out" so nomenclature and rigging were still evaluation questions. The "Wedge" was also in the mix - last one I saw was on the parking ramp adjacent to the assault zone at KDYS. For the time I crewed Herks the only airdrop requiring the aft anchor cable supports to be lowered after the ramp and door were "open" would be as RavenFE states. BREAK RavenFE! Don't forget "tailgate" = "SLOWDOWN CHECKLIST", B. Tailgate Exit (1) Jumpmaster Alerted (2) Helmet Visor - Lowered (3) Ramp and Door - "CLEAR TO OPEN" (LM) (4) Aft Anchor Cable Supports - Lowered (If Required) (5) Cargo Ramp and Door Control - Assumed by Jumpmaster/Safety (6) "SLOWDOWN CHECKLIST COMPLETE" (LM,E) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenFE Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Fleagle; Forgot the tailgate drops -thanks for the reminder, been a few years since doing one of those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflimbach Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Lately I've seen several videos and still photos of Heavy Equipment drops and I have noticed that the anchor cable arms are retracted during the drop. When I was doing this (1966-79) the checklist said to put the arms down as soon as the ramp and door were open... what's up?? - Did they change the procedure? JimH C130 LM/ILM 1966-1979 Jim: In the "old" days before the EFTC, the SLCS or "Gangbang" was used for force transfer on heavy drops, and the anchor cable supports had to be down. After the Gangbang went away, so did that requirement, however there are some newer systems like extracted 10K Dragonfly and others that are extracted but use static line deployed parachutes. These types of drops require the anchor cable supports to be extended. So, the "if required" in the checklist will catch that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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