DC10FE Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I copied this from the latest Amrtican Legion Magazine. Interesting to note that there are no C-130's or C-17's of the 9 aircraft listed, yet the 1960's era B-52 is on the list. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Interesting that the Air Force One fleet is only 92%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinwhistle Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 It would be interesting to know what the number is for the C-130. Could be that the Herk is ranked so high as to be not considered........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Not that high tinwhistle. When I retired in 2003 the H model fleet was running about 76%. E models lower. Cann rate was thru the roof. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I copied this from the latest Amrtican Legion Magazine. Interesting to note that there are no C-130's or C-17's of the 9 aircraft listed, yet the 1960's era B-52 is on the list. Don R. Whomever compiled this chart missed the boat in providing meaningful data concerning air force aircraft mission capable rates. Most of the CA coded aircraft carrying the load are missing. Why would one include the two aircraft VC-137A fleet. Comparing 137 mission capable rates with any other flying unit is apples and oranges. The C-37A is a very low number (around ten) commercial VIP transport that I'm guessing are maintained by contractor. If a C-37 is non-mission capable what are the consequences? A flag officer doesn't get to a conference. A meaningful chart would include MC rates for the A-10, F-15, F-16, C-5, C-17 and C-130 aircraft. The B-2 MC rate is the one that got my attention. On any one day the wing can field less than ten aircraft. Am guessing a major contributor to the abysmal rate is maintenance of the stealth coating. In the 72-75 time frame the TAC C-130E fleet rate varied between 70 and 75%. The rate was, for the most part, driven by fuel leaks and engine maintenance. Maintenance man hours per flying hour varied between about 22 and 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinwhistle Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Now that's useful in formation!! Thanks Larry! I didn't think that the C-37 should have been included, and I'm none to sure why the "drones" are included. In fact, I think the whole chart is useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Guess some LC had some time on his hands, thus this useless graphic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Actually guys and especially you who have been out 20+ years the whole discussion is useless unless you know, understand and have access to the total picture ie., FMC, PMCS, PMCM, NMCM, NMCS rates and utilization rate. These are all factors that give the true health of the fleet and if you can fly a certain mission. So the headlines above are junk. Those letters are the "new" OR, NORS-G from the old days Tinwhistle. Bill:) Edited January 2, 2014 by Spectre623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Podboy Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Some more new / old status codes NEW CODE – DEFINITION - OLD CODE FMC - FULL MISSION CAPABLE - OR PMC - PARTIAL MISSION CAPABLE - NORM-F/NORS-F NMC - NOT MISSION CAPABLE - TOTAL NORM-G AND NORS-G UNMCB - UNSCHEDULED NOT MISSION CAPABLE BOTH (MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY) - NORM-G (UNSCH) / NORS-G SNMCB - SCHEDULED NOT MISSION CAPABLE BOTH (MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY) - NORM-G (SCM) /NORS-G UNMCM - UNSCHEDULED NOT MISSION CAPABLE MAINTENANCE - NORM-G (UNSCH) SNMCM - SCHEDULED NOT MISSION CAPABLE MAINTENANCE - NORM-G (SCH) NMCS - NOT MISSION CAPABLE SUPPLY - NORS -G PMCB - PARTIALLY MISSION CAPABLE BOTH (MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY) - NORM-F INORS-F PMCM - PARTIALLY MISSION CAPABLE MAINTENANCE - NORM-F PMCS - PARTIALLY MISSION CAPABLE SUPPLY - NORS-F From: MODELS OF MAINTENANCE RESOURCES INTERACTION July 1983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinwhistle Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Actually guys and especially you who have been out 20+ years the whole discussion is useless unless you know, understand and have access to the total picture ie., FMC, PMCS, PMCM, NMCM, NMCS rates and utilization rate. These are all factors that give the true health of the fleet and if you can fly a certain mission. So the headlines above are junk. Those letters are the "new" OR, NORS-G from the old days Tinwhistle. Bill:) Geez, Bill Ya really know how to hurt a guy!!!!!!!!! Seein' how I've been out for 46 years!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Hey Tinwhistle, yer body has been out 46 years but yer heart is still in....and probably always will be. Bill:) Edited January 3, 2014 by Spectre623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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