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P3_Super_Bee

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  1. You know you could be right. I looked at the banner again tonight, and the the Serial Number(customers, not LM's) block it has 5662 & 5663. Can't say that I've seen the customer S/N being the same as the C/N. Though don't know why it couldn't either.
  2. Pretty sure it's the tail. Vaught, who makes it now, lost the contract.
  3. Something with the Rainbow Fittings was changed, not sure what else. I'll see if I can come up with the info.
  4. You'll have to explain that one... The "J" has the same fuselage as the legacy Hercs. Not to mention an upgraded wing box was started with the first HC/MC "J", and is currently being used for all "J" models and Legacy wing replacement kits.
  5. Tail Numbers are: 5662 is 211 5663 is 212 At least thats what's on the ID Banner on the side of the fuselage.
  6. Exactly... Thanks. Don't matter when you're only using the codes for a reference relating to Lockheed terminology. As it was brought up that 73J, 51J, 44J, whatever J, was thought to be a "contract" code, but has been determined that it is a "Version Number" I just happened to throw up the 382V referencing it as a model number that's it. No more no less to the conversation.
  7. Vanilla as in had VERY LITTLE of that put into aircraft going down the line...
  8. That makes since. We are doing the same with the HC/MCs, actually the first two 73J01 & 02 were for the most part plane jane going down the line. 03,04,05, & 06 pretty much got all the mods as they went down the line. Also the USCG "J's were built plain jane on the line, and then modded later. Also the terminology Lockheed uses for the numbering system: 382V is the model number. 73JXX is the version number. Thought of something today... I still like your latest theory on the numbering sequence. But.... There is always on of those around LOL... Using your theory, say they came down the line as a standard C-130J, I wonder what the version number on them was? I ask (to no one in particular) because I wouldn't think a Tanker wouldn't have been say modded from a normal USAF short C-130J. Kind of hard to imagine installing the Enhanced Cargo System to take it back out at the end of the line. (The USMC J's are the only "J" that still have the old school cargo side rails and floorboards. But then again, I can see the US Government wasting the money in doing this as well Still trying to see if there is a listing of all "J" models with version numbers listed as well. One would think there is one somewhere.
  9. LM a little slow on the photo release it seems. Come tomorrow this view will have 73J04 on the far side, and 73J05 in the near slot. Wanna say J03 is already out the door. Maybe Monday. Wondering why they haven't put up a photo of Qatar's 1st Super Herc yet. It will be out of Body Mate, here in a day or so.
  10. MIL-PRF-83282 is classified as NOT FLAMMABLE... Flashpoint: >205 degrees C Fire Point: >245 degrees C Autoignition Temperture: >345 degrees C
  11. We carried Sig Sauer P226 9MMs, Two full clips on person with extra mags on aircraft. Also had 6 Mossberg 12 gauge shotguns on board. Obviously with the 9MM this is recent. Plus I was on P-3's
  12. Yep, I posed the question last night at work in how the 43rd and 44th KC-130J is labeled 72J28 / 29 coming down the line. All seemed to scratch their heads. Most who I talked to have been on the line since the start of the J program, but none could remember the KC-130J coming down the line as something other than a 72J. This is kind of a curiosity that killed the cat thing for me, so will try to see if I can come up with the answer. Also the use of the 44J, 47J, 72J, type designations came about with the J program, so it wasn't like 20 some odd KC-130J were made then they started using the "new" numbering system vice the C/N going down the line.
  13. There are 2 crews stations in the flight station in addition to the 2 Pilots on the MC-130J. Which reads, no bunks in the flight station either.
  14. So the USMC has received 30+ aircraft in last 5 years or so? That would be about half of the "J" production in those 5 years. . 5660 & 61 are 72J28 and 29... 72J = KC, 28/29 = production number for that series.(not sure when they did that, but was under impression it started when the J's did) Maybe it's the 28th/29th plane since LM stopped using the C/N and started the 72J28 system. Who knows.
  15. Huh? #28 & #29 are just now coming up the production line. Unless something has changed, the C-130 that is Fat Albert, is a USN aircraft, not a USMC aircraft, therefore the Navy would be ordering the replacement, not the USMC. Yes, Fat Albert is flown by the USMC and USMC markings but it is a Navy Command.
  16. Key words being "the plan about a year ago". I believe I remember reading where the Navy has postponed replacing their T's and have move the money towards F-35. Will try to find the link. Though with the recent Congressional look at cutting the US F-35B(UK would still get theirs) program totally, cutting the order for the US F-35A/C's in half. Who knows whats going on.
  17. Please tell me this is not a separate class, but apart of general hydraulics school and/or an aircraft fam school? Or I will be laughing my ass off at the stupidity of the Air Farce yet again....
  18. You practically can learn something new, everyday forever. The guy who "knows everything" isn't the guy I'd want working on my aircraft. I worked on P-3's for 20 years... Never came close to learning it all. And learned something new right up till the day I retired.
  19. That sounds like piss poor training to me.
  20. We normally get it to come up to about a foot short of being closed. Though in saying that, the ramps and such haven't been loaded into the door yet.
  21. The extra weight in the door should help the issue, not hurt it.
  22. Yep, max fuel. Sorry about that Dan...
  23. Theoretically being the key word. Till you start blowing sealant out of the tanks... One of the dumbest inspections they used to do on P-3's was Bag out the tanks, and come back the next day to see if there is any leaks. No shit sherlock.. Leaks all over the damn place that wasn't there prior to the dumbass bagging the tank and walking away for the night. And it was something that happened on EVERY airplane that was left bagged out overnight. Everyone was sure glad especially Airframes when they did away with that, retarded, serve no purpose but make work for no reason, inspection was done away with.
  24. Dual Rails??? Are you referring to the flip-up rails that run down the center of the cargo hold? On a "J" there is nothing to "install". But fuselage dimensions are same as legacy aircraft.
  25. DCMA (the customer) is going to accept the aircraft at Marietta. Once they do that, the plane ownership changes, that's why LM counts the "delivered", because they have been(paperwork wise to the customer) Then DCMA will then transfer the aircraft to the designated operator. Be it, USAF, USMC, Canada, India, whatever.
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