Railrunner130

I'm not entirely sure about that. I think when people are briefed about parts shortages, the meaning of that statement is often in reference to gauges. However, I do remember reading a story a while back about how a USMC Herk where had to pick up an elevator (I think) from the factory and min turn to get the part to Afghanistan because one of their Js had been hit by a forklift. I just went looking for the article and found nothing. I think the article might have been a Lockheed press release. Anyhow, if this is true, it would suggest that more parts than we realize have been redesigned over the course of the airplane's production life.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20151002-2 http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20080627-3

I'm not familiar with that particular incident, but IIRC there was a rescue at sea facilitated by a KY ANG crew in 2002-ish. A Cessna 172 had to ditch at sea between Lajes and mainland Portugal after running out of fuel. The crew dropped some survival gear and stayed on station long enough for a P-3 to take over top cover until a ship was able to pick up the pilot.

I wonder what that does to wing box life.

I don't think so. I've noticed that the hard points appear to be there, but I don't think they all have wiring harnesses. We had an airplane that needed a doner outboard wing after the tornado. What was received was off of a KC-130 and it apparently had more hardware than what is installed on the standard slick. I just can't believe that it's nearly a $1.5 million job to install wiring and whatever hardpoint modifications need to be done.

Perhaps a contractor like Lynden will be taking over DEW line duties if they haven't already. I thought they had discussed it a while back and were considering a Delta Squadron-type rotation. Problem with that being that a lot of those sites (I think) are special qual. I had forgotten about Wyoming being a MAFFS unit.

That makes some sense. I would think Wyoming should be considered also as that area is where the MAFFS units spend a good bit of time.

I wonder, with Alaska going to C-17s how will the DEW line sites be supported? Contractors or will it be like a Coronet Oak-type rotation? With Charlotte going C-17, will there be another MAFFS unit? And all the "extra" Herks.... I would assume they would be distributed so that newer airplanes replace older?

It seems to me that the C-27J will only be a stop-gap airplane until C-130Js or something else can be procured. The reason USAF was able to rid of them is because there's no PDM cycle developed for them and they didn't want to spend the cash. The C-27J going to other organizations doesn't fix this issue.

The idea of C-17s replacing Herks also was explored at Savannah and Texas. Not sure exactly how many other units were looked at and I'm not sure how far any of it evolved.

I think there's also a 3,500 hr award as well. I'm pretty sure mine is somewhere at home.

I'm with DE. We have 206-213 and 90-1057 is the replacement for 211. Interesting that 204 and 5 ended up in another training squadron after being at the Dobbins schoolhouse. I wonder if we'd get either or both if the PAA were to ever increase for whatever reason (I haven't heard anything about it in a long time).

Where are 84-0204 and 5? I thought I heard LRF or Mansfield.

Yep. See my post above for the beginning of the flush toilet. The 2.5s introduced some glass to the cockpit. Square paratroop door windows began in the straight H2s with 90-1057. I don't know if there were any systems changes or not.

Um. Is this true or another news blunder?

Um. Is this true or another news blunder?

Sounds like that's the standard PAA for "legacy" airplanes It has been Bob

I was on their ramp last spring and they had at least one other tail there. I don't recall what it was though.

I've got a lot of time in probably all of the 78-82 year airplanes on this list. Some of those tail numbers make me shudder. But, in the end, at least they did their job safely and ended up at DM instead of part of an accident report. I did hear that Reno will be all-H3 shortly if not already.

Did Savannah get their airplanes factory-fresh? If so, those are probably the first "one-owner" Herks to go to the boneyard.

The more I think of this I'm reminded of the Polish C-130E that took a low-level sightseeing tour of northern Afghanistan and how bent up it was from the Gs. I wonder how they disposed of that airplane.

It's impressive that the airplane made it back. I wonder what it looks like. The title of the thread makes me wonder - will this airplane be turned into a static display out front?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/16/lockheed-transport-idUSL1N12G02H20151016 Wonder where they are headed? If half go to USAF and half are split between USCG and USMC- Are the Yokota airplanes included? If Yokota takes 20, then 3 ANG/AFRC units would get Js. With all the airplane shuffles lately, would that mean Mansfield, CT and MT? Although I think MT is getting Savannah's H2s.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/16/lockheed-transport-idUSL1N12G02H20151016 Wonder where they are headed? If half go to USAF and half are split between USCG and USMC- Are the Yokota airplanes included? If Yokota takes 20, then 3 ANG/AFRC units would get Js. With all the airplane shuffles lately, would that mean Mansfield, CT and MT? Although I think MT is getting Savannah's H2s.

I think I have time on all three of them. Let me try to be PC and say that as a rule, I didn't enjoy OK City airplanes. I think I heard corrosion got the other two.