Sonny

Hey Ken, Look what I found. Thanks to Steen Lunde, he sent it to me since I was the Crew Chief on 533. Sonny

Ken, That does sound right to me. I believe all the information you are talking about was found on the 781 and 781A. As far as the 781 K being cardboard or yellow. I really don't remember so you could be right. Sonny

Bill, Thanks, I remember those form numbers now. Just needed a memory jogger. It still seems to me we didn't have to account for time until mid 1968. I only had to do it for a couple of months. Thanks again, Sonny

Ken, It was the only one I could find on the net. It is different than the ones I remember too, but had all the info. I assumed (there is that word again) it was a newer version. Sonny

Thanks, I would be interested in seeing the pictures too, if you get them. Sonny

DC10FE, Found this on the old Hercules Headquarters Board. Bob left his e-mail as [email protected]. Don't know if it still is a good one but you can sure try. Sonny "I was reviewing my photo albums and came across pictures of 64-0550 when she crashed at Naples Italy (1977?). The photographs show the damage to the aircraft and skid marks on the runway. Is anyone interested in the photos? - - Bob "

I don't recall having to account for my time until sometime in mid 1968. Then I had to fill out some kind of time form and give it to the bread truck driver at the end of my shift. Sonny

Ken, Here is a list of the 781 forms. I believe we used to keep them all on the aircraft. Please correct me if I am wrong. Sonny AFTO FORM 781 SERIES AFTO Form 781, AFORMS (Air Force Operations Resource Management System) Aircrew/ Mission Flight Data Document AFTO Form 781A, Maintenance Discrepancy and Work Document AFTO Form 781B, Communications Security (COMSEC) Equipment Record AFTO Form 781C, Avionics Configuration and Load Status Document AFTO Form 781D, Calendar and Hourly Item Inspection Document AFTO Form 781E, Accessory Replacement AFTO Form 781F, Aerospace Vehicle Flight Report and Maintenance Document AFTO Form 781G, General Mission Classification AFTO Form 781H, Aerospace Vehicle Flight Status and Maintenance Document AFTO Form 781J, Aerospace Vehicle Engine Flight Document AFTO Form 781K, Aerospace Vehicle Inspection, Engine Data, Calendar Inspection, and Delayed Discrepancy Document AFTO Form 781L, Record of Removal/Installation of Controlled Cryptographic Items (CCI) AFTO Form 781M, Status Symbols and Functional System Codes AFTO Form 781N, J-79 Engine Runup Record

Ken, I, for one would love to see the old forms. My recollection is that we initiated discrepancies on the 781a. I would also assume that the records are only kept for a designated number of years or, in this day and age, may be computerized. I seem to remember turning over the completed forms (after carrying forward any open items) to the shift supervisor (you know, the guy in the bread truck who was never around when you needed him. Thank God for anti-collision lights!!)). I also assume he turned them over to operations. Who knows? Sonny 56-0533 Naha '67-'68

Will do my best to give advance notice. Sonny

"The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." I am alive and well. My real name is not Horace (it's much worse in my opinion). Thanks for your concern. Sonny

You Scored as Special Ops Special ops. You're sneaky, tactful, and a loner. You prefer to do your jobs alone, working where you don't come into contact with people. But every once in a while you hit it big and are noticed and given fame. You're given the more sensitive problems. You get things done, and do what has to be done. You are competent, resourceful, and resiliant. "VULCAN NECK PINCH!!!" "owww.......(slump)" Special Ops 100% Artillery/Aircraft 100% Support Gunner 88% Combat Infantry/Armor 88% Officer 75% Medic 63% Engineer 50% Civilian 0%

Dutch, I got to Naha May, 1967 and it was still TCS and TCW. I believe it was August 1, 1967 when it changed over to TAS and TAW. Sonny

donwon, I remember Shifflett as well as Orlando, Peiffer,, Ramierez, Howell and Warnick. All were Crew Chiefs the same time I was (56-0533). Tanner was line chief while I was there from May '67 until Oct '68.

donwon....The only (M)Sgt. Tanner I remember was the line chief for the 21st. All the barracks looked alike to me!!

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This is my graduating class from Chanute AFB, Illinois, March 1965. Aircraft Mechanic, Jet, Over Two Engines. Trained on B-52's and ended up on C-130's. That's me right behind the flag.

Thanks, I'll give it a try. Sonny

Help out a computer dummy. How do I post a picture?

Don't know the story but the intake plug was obviously installed to protect the engine from FOD. Sorry, just couldn't resist!

Thanks!

When I got to Naha in May 1967 all of the 21st birds (except "E" Flight) had the YD tail code on them. Sonny

John, You are correct. I also was in the 21st from May'67 til Oct'68 (Asst. Crew Chief on 56-0489 and Crew Chief on 56-0533). Sonny

My first trip in country in 1967 I was issued a M-16 at Naha. When I landed at CRB I was asked if I had been issued a weapon and when I replied "Yes" they took it from me until I rotated back. The next time I went in country I didn't tell them I was issued a weapon and kept it locked in the gun cabinet. Fool me once!!