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168070 is in service, was spotted at RAF Leuchars 04 August 2011.
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...does that 2,400 include the three commercial Hercs that Lockheed denies having been built -- N82178 (55048), N8213G (5055) and N8218J (5056)?
Don R.
Yes, that is including the ones that don't fly for a certain agency, so LM may use 5680 MC-130J 08-6201 as the poster boy for Hercules #2400.
My list doesn't include 5057, 5356, 5357, 5359, or 5436-5439.
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Incidentally, 5677 #168072 is the 46th KC-130J and the last for the active duty USMC. It will be the 2400th Herk to be built (LM doesn't count the prototypes), and should be going into paint in the next couple of weeks.
C/N:5681 73J08 is slated to be aircraft #36 over the fence for this year. She has made it to Body Mate in Final Assembly.Not sure where she will end up or a tail number, as there is no ID sticker on the fuselage(Being a 73J, she is an HC/MC bird, most likely a MC as the other two in line with her are MC's).
5681 will be tail #08-6202, confirmed MC-130J. However, I have 5682 #08-6203 as the 36th delivery.
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130613 is now in test flight, seen taking off from Marietta on 28 July.
MSN: 5667
Call sign: LAC5667
Mode-S hex code: C2B5A3
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I would agree that new engines would be too expensive, that's why I'm so excited about the 3.5 upgrade, along with NP2000/EPCS.
It all depends on the optics and how you spin it. This administration is big on fuel economy and being environmentally friendly, and if you can achieve 10% fuel reduction doing an overhaul at minimal additional cost...
I think that will be a big part of the NP2000/EPCS battle, and why they've been conducting all of these tests and for so long. It all depends on how you can justify it.
Rolls-Royce and LM have signed an agreement to push the 3.5 upgrade, see the June 2011 edition of PROVEN for details: http://www.herkybirds.com/showthread.php?2422-PROVEN-News-from-the-World-of-the-C-130&p=22849&viewfull=1#post22849
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Looks to me like it is CNA-OQ, 4892 C130H.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]2201[/ATTACH]
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In Trenton during the 1980's we had a bird that jumped chocks during engine run up and crashed into another herk. The investigation revealed that the brakes were not functioning because the auxiliary hydraulic system wasn't activated before the run up.
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We have 2 new ones in stock. They are not beeing swapped nore in a contract. The GAY model I mean J model is not for S&R so we dont care about them down here in 9 Hgr. lol
New, or newer? We have a couple of used ones in storage, but the best ones have been going into the H73s. Very surprised if these are brand new CWBs.
And that brings up another point...aren't there a whole bunch of H-models already being worked on at Cascade getting new CWBs? If 307 was needed that badly they would use it now, rather than tie it up upgrading the CWB only to retire it in 4-5 months.
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Now reported as 78 dead, with 3 wounded survivors. My source says it is CNA-OO (4877), a C-130H built in 1980, but I don't have confirmation on this part yet.
Also reported now as 4892 C130H CNA-OQ
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May 2011 and June 2011 issues of "PROVEN: News from the World of the C-130"
May 2011:
USAF increases quantity of Combat Shadow IIs
From Hueys to Harvest Hawk:Ordnance Marine arms aircraft in Afghanistan
MAFFS certification week gets crews, systems for fire season
Hurlburt hosts Talon I dedication ceremony
Super Herk helps crush airdrop record
Army weapon system a perfect fit for C-130 wing
537th Airlift Squadron flies again after 40 years
Thracian Spring 2011 preserves U.S., Bulgarian partnerships
IAF C-130J full-mission simulator on schedule
Last E-model Hercules leaves Afghanistan, comes home to Trenton
June 2011:
QATAR FLYING HIGH
Rolls Royce, Lockheed Martin sign fuel efficiency agreement
Héroux-Devtek announces multi-year C-130J contract
GKN Aerospace secures follow-on order for C-130J nacelles
Formation airdrop provides needed supplies, saves lives
C-130s maintain steady ops in Afghanistan
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I like your thinking on the M-model. Unfortunately we all know that won't happen.
My point is that the Herk community shouldn't be like the C-141C, an upgrade in the last couple years of it's service life. It should be something that can be implemented sooner than later, not cost a fortune, but it would really make a difference.
With the C-5M project, they did a cost-benefit analysis that proved how much money would be saved. Unfortunately it's been ten years since then, so a lot of the benefits for the C-5As have evaporated (hence the decision to scrap all A-models rather than RERP). If some keen guys bucking for promotions were to do something similar I'm sure the case can be made, but a lot of people will make comparisons to the C-5M (unfairly).
I would be interested to see what the costs are for NP2000/EPCS and the 3.5 engine upgrades, as well as the payback period. I remember reading somewhere that the USAF alone consumes 10% of America's aviation fuel, which coupled with the reliance on foreign oil is a pretty dangerous situation.
Kinda wonder why the civvy operators aren't all over these upgrades. Lower duty cycles/longer payback periods? Waiting for the USAF to proceed to lower costs?
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Not impressed with the response.
Brand-new member expecting a response within 16 hours on a weekend? That's okay budz, I'm not too impressed with you. :rolleyes:
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Does that perception include NP2000 and EPCS? I think those are pretty cost effective over the next 20 years. Might as well do it all in one shot with the AMP and call it the C-130M. Would fit in well with the C-5M program (AMP plus RERP).
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I wonder how much it costs to swap a box out. Any idea which bird the CWB is coming from?
This really doesn't make sense, as there will be 13 Jay birds by September. I guess I should be used to weird decisions in the military by now, but still.... Maybe the swap is already contractually obligated or something.
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And observer seats...
As much as a FLIR mod ala Harvest HAWK would be fantastic, the Canadian Forces is not going to spend money on equipment that will only be around for five years. I would hope that the next-generation SAR aircraft that will enter service in 2017 will have FLIR. It is ideally suited for that application, day or night.
Pics:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]2196[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]2197[/ATTACH]
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Perhaps you could ask the other guys who requested pics from him as well. He was supposed to mail one person a CD and have that person upload it since he only had a 56k modem.
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AC 307 currently has 45000 hours on it and it will be on its way to Abbotsford to get a new wing box installed.
Doesn't make much sense IMHO, as all Canadian E-models will be retired by April 2012. With four more CC-130Js coming next month, 305, 307, and 308 should be retired ASAP, as they have well over 45k each (more like 48k).
The H-models are being upgraded with newer CWBs in preparation for their exclusive SAR role though 2017. Maybe it was one of these instead?
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I'm trying to find the Mode-S hex codes for the following aircraft before they are retired. I have been able to dig up some hexcodes for some birds in AMARG and museums, but that is very tough. If I can get the codes, we can tap into the ICAO24 ADS-B broadcasts and see whether they are still flying.
3717 61-2372
3787 62-1824
3819 62-1855
3821 62-1857
3823 62-1859
3862 63-7796
3889 63-7815
3894 63-7816
3897 63-7829
3915 63-7845
3967 63-7896
3990 MC130E 62-1843
4007 MC130E 64-0523
4046 MC130E 64-0551
4062 MC130E 64-0559
4065 MC130E 64-0561
4068 MC130E 64-0562
4077 MC130E 64-0565
4080 MC130E 64-0566
4086 MC130E 64-0568
4087 MC130E 64-0571
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It was the third C-130B, now flying with the Turkish Air Force.
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130610 ff 03 July 2011
130612 ff 17 July 2011
Eight E-models are still in service, and the plan is to retire them one-for-one as the final eight J-models are delivered.
After April 2012, the Canadian C-130 fleet will be comprised of:
4x H73
2x H84
5x KC-130H
2x C-130-30
17x CC-130J
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The final two C-130Js for Qatar (213 & 214) have been out of paint for the last month awaiting flight tests, which should start up in a couple of weeks.
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Thanks, I wonder if it could be flying with a DM squadron?
Possibly...I did a quick search and it hasn't come up on Mode-S.
Not to totally change the subject, but Harrisburg I think has two slick Js. I went through the database and couldn't find them. Any ideas what tails they are?I'm curious about this...Are you sure they were based there, or maybe they were visitng?
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Spotted 03 May 2011 in Tucson...
Canadian Herks
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130611 is in service and will be at the Abbotsford Air Show this weekend. Don't have a delivery date, but it was within the last couple of weeks.