Dan Wilson

I dont know Larry, it seems to me there was something added to the start limits about twenty years ago (20 years - holy damn!!!)

When I was in W Germany in the 37th we were all AWADS

The main concern is if they actually had to shutdown that engine inflight and its spinning against the prop brake would be as the prop brake heats up it will lose effectiveness and the prop will spin faster and faster and this would cause directional control problems. Other problems associated with flying with this problem would be heat generated from the prop brake will increase higher and higher (due to friction) until it becomes a fire hazard; another concern would be no oil to the gearbox, this is a big problem for a sustained flight in this condition with heat buildup at all your bearing points.

Yep you can but I would really check to see if the flight was necessary. Its primary purpose is to stop prop rotation in flight, if it is already rotating with engine shut down, all it going to do is wear the break and rotation will increase in speed. This could lead to an increase in control difficulties during the flight if you have to shut that engine down.

On hearing that her elderly grandfather had just passed away, Susan went straight to her grandparent's house to visit her 95-year-old grandmother and comfort her. When she asked how her grandfather had died, her grandmother replied, he had a heart attack while we were making love on Sunday morning." Horrified, Susan told her grandmother that two people nearly 100 years old having sex would surely be asking for trouble. "Oh no, my dear," replied granny. "Many years ago, realizing our advanced age, we figured out the best time to do it was when the church bells would start to ring. It was just the right rhythm. Nice and slow and even. Nothing too strenuous, simply in on the Ding, and out on the Dong." She paused, wiped away a tear and then continued, "and if that damned ice cream truck hadn't come along, he'd still be alive today!"

Unfortunately changing the prop wont affect the original complaint of 30 seconds to stop as the prop brake is part of the gear box.

Wow, if I am getting you right you say it takes thirty seconds to feather on a ground check? Bad Prop assy (somewhere in there that is) If its windmilling at all and then you have to use the starter to unpop the prop brake then I would look really hard at that prop brake being bad.

Now dem some cool pictures, thanks!

Man, that's a crazy video!!!!

I had the dubious honor of landing at the wrong airport once. We were supposed to land at Langley but we ended up at Navy Norfolk and just to ice the cake on this FU we had the TAC IG team onboard; we were taking them home following our ORI. Nothing like having to ask Langley ON THE RADIO "where are we" and getting the answer "we trying to find you right now"

TENTEN, I got the impression that the prop was spinning and on the ground when they were timing the feather shutdown, not sure why they were timing it this way but its not really something covered in the 6CF or any other tech manual. Like I said above they are really checking two different systems, the prop brake and the prop control assy.

Yep, refueling pods There for awhile they were used for a top secret mission and the refueling pods were replaced with DATR mod 56 (dead alien transfer receptical), it had a rotary storage system and we could transfer up to 12 aliens at once per pod (that figure was for the small grays). I got to help transfer the alien biosamples from area 51 to wright pat. We used to tell people the HF antennas were 20mm cannons LOL

23 seconds is strictly for time to feather, as for stopping that would depend on the prop brake. Two different systems in play here, prop control assy for the 23 seconds and prop brake for rotation stoppage.

Bob, why does that A model have refueling pods in place of externals?

Thats really an involved question but the straight answer from the flyer side is 1400 psi is the max allowable with the 1400-1600 being an emergency operating range. Any pressure above 1600 would really mean dont use the rudder, the danger of structural damage/loss of control is really high using the rudder with high pressure at speed. You would not take an aircraft up with the pressure outside of the NORMAL operating range (above 1400). As for corrective action, I will have to pass off to a MX guy for that answer.

And a great day to you ....... from upper yankee land

The Change from TAS to AS happened in 93, when I left the 37th in Jan 93 they were still a TAS but when I came back through in July on the way to Turkey they were an AS. Reasoning is Mc Dork refused to allow smelly airlifters to think they were tactical, after all they weren't hairy chested manly men fighter jocks.

Good luck, I used to have one (H model whiz wheel) but it took a stroll out of my helmet bag one year.

Thanks to our liberal idiots in the supreme court, the shot down the stolen valor act ggggggggggrrrrrrrrrr http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/06/28/supreme-court-strikes-down-stolen-valor-act.html?ESRC=airforce.nl

Katrina wasn't much of a deal for us down in the Hurlburt/Eglin area. The last hurricane that bitch slapped us was Ivan in 2004 and it trashed lots of planes at the Pensacola Naval museum but I think the birds at Hurlburt survived it okay.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me. Be damned if more things get messed up in my head every day, it really gets frustrating but thats the price I pay for getting my brain bent thirty some odd times.

Uh aint the form 5 your checkride sheet from your FEF?

I got my whole FEF when I retired - I think I did at least, will have to look for it next time I am wading through the piles of paperwork. I do know I have my Flight Records folder when I outprocessed, I was shocked that they didnt keep that as its the source doc for my wings and just about everything else to do with my flying career. That bastard folder dont fit in any of the boxes or drawers right, its like 9X12 and just dont fit anywhere.

I wonder why I moved away from hurricane alley, always hated the hot sticky days/weeks without electricity following a storm. Well we had a hell of a really cool storm come through on Friday and wham! the infrastructure is shot to hell and just now got power back on, it sucks that its the hottest stickiest June in memory. Ahhh well, at least now I have AC again, guess its time to walk next door to the house and chuck all the stuff out of the freezer into the ol burn pit.

Whats the name of the two operations? We may be able to shed some light - or we may not, who knows unless you ask.