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    Any Simple DIY test kit available to detect position of bleed air leak?

    in C-130 Technical

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    I use a ruler with toilet paper taped to the end of it. Works good and it's cheap....budget crisis and all.

    We used an inspection mirror or mechanical fingers with paper taped to the end. would also slice the paper so it had like brush bristles... Costs nothing. You always have paper, tape and the tool box...

    Though maybe the thermo imaging camera would allow checking without doing the "Man On The Stand" turn...

    Blueprints and Know how help.

    in C-130 General

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    Go to some Microsoft flight simulator fan sites(there are more than you can shake a stick at, would start with the likes of AVSIM.com or FLIGHTSIM.com). The program they use(can't think of the name off the top of my head) to create models for flight sim takes standard 3 view drawings makes them look 3D so as the flight sim model can be made. There is one group called Captain Sim that has done some C-130's in pretty good detail

    J model rail system (GOODER or BADDER :) )

    in C-130 General

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    Well I can say a collective "thank you" from all the J model LMs for your work. The flip up CVR is 10 times better than installing the E/H model CVR. The CVR basically does what its names implies, provides Centerline Vertical Restraint when airdropping CDS side by side. Depending on the number of CDS we can load them centerline (no CVR required), but we then have to provide our own vertical restraint via a cargo strap. The ability to do an airdrop and reconfigure the cargo compartment takes about 2 minutes.

    Here's a video of a CDS drop, the container is loaded on the right and the CVR is utilized:

    You are quite welcome.

    J model rail system (GOODER or BADDER :) )

    in C-130 General

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    GREAT info here. Was going to ask about the CVR. We call them Flip-up rails or center rails. One of my jobs is installing them, and we were trying to figure out what they were used for.

    One of the things I hate about my job. Install, Install, Install, but don't know what the hell I'm installing and how it works in the fleet, and curious minds want to know. LOL I actually do install on all the ECHS stuff, as well as cabin pressurization checks.

    C130 Nose Wheel Part Numbers

    in C-130 Technical

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    In thinking about this some more, it probably is a tire issue. Though not a manufacturer thing but a spec thing. The J has around a 20,000 lb higher take off weight. Would also guess takeoff/ landing speeds are different, requiring a different tire.

    C130 Nose Wheel Part Numbers

    in C-130 Technical

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    A quick google search reveals that the -31 is for "J" models.

    Might be the same wheel(specs) (legacy / "J" model) just that the "J" model wheel is made by someone different than who made the legacy wheels...

    What type(manufacturer) Rubber on the wheel has nothing to do with the part number. < At least in the Navy world...

    A P-3 Nose Wheel/tire assembly is 3-1284 weather its wearing Good Year or Goodrich rubber...

    Contract/Batch Numbers?

    in C-130 General

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    Again, citing Lars' book, 73J is the MC-130J.

    Don R.

    73J is actually the code for BOTH the USAF HC-130J (not USCG) AND the MC-130J, For the first 31 aircraft anyway.

    On HC/MC aircraft 32 and up will be 77J...

    The Air Force's standard Slick-30 the 44J is now a 58J.

    The last USMC tanker will be a 76J vice 72J...

    Just to screw you all up yet again LOL

    Why the change? Something about the new program that they use for the drawings. It doesn't put a parts listing on the drawings. It puts them into a different file/drawing and they are on a separate file, than the aircraft drawing. Thus, "The drawing is "different" so the same code can't be used. Don't ask me, I just work here...

    .

    Curiosity has killed the cat, yet again... Tow Plate??? Pressurization...

    in C-130 Technical

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    Not sure if this is on the legacy Herc's or not. The "Tow Plate" is in the middle of the ramp on "J" models. My crew installed them. Just curious as to what in the world it's for and, and how it works.

    It's an electro-mechical under the floor with a flip up door,

    One of the bad thing about being in assembly. I put shit in all day long, but yet don't know what it is, or how it works. Kind of sucks for a guy who worked a flight line for 20 years (P-3's, not Hercs)

    Will Yokota receive C-130Js?

    in C-130 General

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    I thought Bob or someone here had stated that they were next in line behind Dyess to get new airplanes?

    The Rock is behind Dyess.. with at least two 44J77(5726) & 44J78(5728).... So says the sticker on the fuselage as they move down the lines..

    Not sure the tail stripes of each command but the rudders for the above two are gold with black trim stripes.

    J wing tanks

    in C-130 General

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    On "J" models it depends on the customer/mission of the aircraft.

    Supposedly the selling point is a -30 without tanks can fly more cargo(duh, bigger aircraft) higher, faster, further, than a legacy short model. Don't know for sure. To lazy to look up stats...

    Externals Installed at factory:

    Air Force -30 - no

    HC/MC/KC - yes

    Norway - yes (standard -30. Three of them were built as 44J's (USAF slick -30) and redirected. Two were built as 46J's (Norway code) One crashed last year, and I think we have an order to build another, to go along with the recent redirect a month or so ago.)

    India - yes (supposedly a stretched HC/MC.

    Canada - no (standard -30)

    Iraq - no (standard -30)

    Qatar - no (standard -30)

    Oman - (Royal Flight - no, as for the 2 Air Force planes to be built, not sure have built one yet.)

    Israeli - My guess is yes, I've heard they are going to be tankers(might be confusing with another new order), but first one is in bodymate and she is a -30. They do have USARRI(right hodge podge of letters for the In Air Refuel?)

    Curiosity has killed the cat.... What in the world are these?

    in C-130 Technical

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    Ok sorry no picture.

    Not sure if this is all models or just the "J" model...

    On the ramp. and the very aft of the floorboards. You have the center boards and the 2 outboard boards. On the very aft strap & ring on the center there is a tab under the ring. This tab is also on the right floorboard inbd ring. Those are the only places on the whole aircraft these are located. No one at work knows, only the the "deer in the headlight" look....

    Any help? What are the tabs for, and maybe why only those two locations?

    Thanks

    plates on the floorboards at FS245?

    in C-130 Technical

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    They where there because some aircraft had fwd urinals. Talon II still does don't know if others!

    Not sure what they are for but don't think they have anything what so ever to do with urinals....They are not even close to where urinals are in the "J" model...

    On "J" models, ALL of 'em have urinals at 245... BUT only the "J" models with old school cargo rails(read USMC "J" models) have the plates in question. They are termed "SKID PLATES" On "J" models with ECHS (read all but USMC "J's") The "skid plates" are not installed but "pallet stops"(keeps the pallet from hitting 245)are installed in that area of the floor boards.

    What they are there for I have no clue, have asked around, but only answer I get is... the deer in the headlight look and "It's in the blueprint, I just install them"

    Fillet Panel

    in C-130 Technical

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    Maybe you need to go to Lockheed and ask them for the correct pronunciation. They named it so they should know how it is pronounced.

    That is my point. If every panel is a fillet panel, why would only specific ones be referred to as such? The panels aren't called that because of a technical term but because that's what they look like. Same idea as an armpit panel. It's called an armpit panel because it looks like an armpit.

    WOW... SEEMS no one know how to click links??????

    Strut servicing

    in C-130 Technical

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    It works. For those that say don't obviously have zero experience in servicing struts. Fill the strut to the top of with fluid. It's not full. Because if you walk away and come back an hours later the fluild ISN"T topped off anymore. So you have to put more in. Hitting the strut with a mallet just speeds up the time you have to wait for the fluid to settle.

    The Navy manual states

    "Deflate Nitrogen & Remove servicing valve."

    "WAIT 1/2 HOUR then fill with hydraulic fluid to top of service port"

    "WAIT 1/2 HOUR, check hydraulic fluid level, repeat until full."

    Hitting the strut with mallet bypasses the "WAIT 1/2 HOUR" over and over evolution. < You can hit the strut till its topped off, then wait the 1/2 hour and it will be still topped off, because you "Knocked" out all the air bubbles the fill, wait 1/2 hour, fill, wait 1/2, fill, wait 1/2 hour would accomplish.

    Though haven't done in years. And it seems the Navy has some cool technology the Air Farce doesn't for once. last 8 years or so I was in the navy, we had a "Strut Servicing Machine" Hook up all three struts(P-3) and flush the gear all at once then serviced them to the correct fluid level and air pressure.

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