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DC10FE,I remember a beer garden that was near or next to RR tracks or a station.Does this description ring any bells?This place had 2 or 3 double entrance doors,a large main floor with a stage at one end (opposite the entrance doors),a balcony on 3 sides.I'm going back to '62 or 3 and '64.The place was always crowded and the beer maids were BUSY.

Another thing I remember is some young German lad would try to walk on the balcony rail all the way around.Never saw one make it. They either fell back into the balcony or crashed  on to the main floor.

On 1/17/2019 at 8:46 AM, jconner2 said:

Sorry I can't help but I sure remember the air base food.  I remember the base cafeteria as winning the USAFE award almost every year.  The holiday meals were amazing.  I'm not sure I ever went off base to eat, but I was only passing through.

I don't remember the restaurant but remember a few bars down town,the rocket club and the German canteen just off the flight line.That chow hall was great!Had some good times at R M and Frankfurt.

Hard to believe he started TO roll w/the parking brake on.As to the anti skid,it was left off or disarmed until during the T O check list called for "ANTI SKID" and the response was "on the roll".Soon as roll commenced,C P flipped the switch,little red light went out and all was good(we hoped).

The shortest F 14 landing I ever witnessed :A glitch in the brakeing system caused the brakes to lock unbeknownonsed to the test pilot.I was nearly a mile from the touchdown point when I saw 2 puffs of smoke and then heard boom boom.Of course the tires were destroyed but the wheels  were worn off half way to the axel. 

I had no idea there was many "A" models still flying.Be interesting to know who owns them,where based and amount of flight hours on them.

9 hours ago, hehe said:

i get your point but.....There are still quite a few A-models flying.

I know of just one,57 466.May be a couple more but I doubt it.

2 hours ago, Spectre623 said:

Mt. crewchief I noticed the brake change pictures is a single disk brake. The TCTO that put multiple disk brakes on The E's was a huge bonus for crew chiefs. We never got them on the A's and B's during Viet Nam. Did they change them after the A's and B's went to the Guard and Reserve? The single disk's were a crew chief's worst nightmare. What a bunch of leakers. Was on E's at Pope before Clark and the multiple disk's were sweet! Bill

i don't remember R&Ring too many for leaks but plenty because of wear and a few     because of big chips broken out of the pucks.What used to gripe me was when you went to help someone R&R a tire and he forget set the parking brake before removing said tire. 

I can't imagine R&Ring ice tires W/O gloves.A guy couldn't even go into a main W/W in short sleeves without cutting himself to ribbons.I've seen faces cut up a time or two.

Just heard from a friend of mine in Fl.(we were on "A" models in the AF).He heard that it MAY have been caused because of cargo shift.Question is how much cargo would be on a bird going to the bone yard?

This post is giving me a laugh.Maybe because some of it is true! 

On 4/8/2018 at 11:01 AM, SamMcGowan said:

I started out at Pope in MX in December 1963. USAF had prohibited anyone but pilots from taxiing ANY airplane with more than two engines. I believe a pilot could taxi with an engineer (but remember that a pilot and engineer was the published minimum crew for emergency operations.)

I was prepping my acft for a tow at Lockbourne AFB on a nice sunny July day.I heard a car pull up to the acft.A guy steps aboard in 505's and a "C" cap.It's our new squadron cmdr.(OMS)He'd come to us from the 41st TCS after a heart murmur was discovered and he was grounded.He was an excellent pilot,flight cmdr. in the 41'st and an excellent officer.He said to me "your'er getting ready to tow?".I said "yes sir",he said "I'll taxi",I said "ok,I'll check the inlets and tailpipes and get a fire guard"    

We went through the check list with me reading it and doing both the C/P and eng. items and him doing the AC items.2 and 3 are on speed,gens. are on line,all is good.I left the flt.deck,closed the crew door,back to the flt.deck, Tower cleared us,ground

man waved us out and off we go.No sweat.I hoped that the major would get back on flt. status.If he'd stayed on status he would   have made full col.without a doubt.So sometimes a taxi was done with even less than a minimum crew.

On 4/8/2018 at 10:22 AM, SamMcGowan said:

Prior to 1966 all Naha C-130s were silver or gray (corrosion paint.) The Air Force began camouflaging all tactical airplanes, including C-130s. In 1961 JFK authorized the use of USAF C-130s for resupply missions to and within Laos and E Flight was established at Naha in the 21st TCS to maintain the airplanes and provide instructor crews. When the camouflaging took place, the four airplanes were left unpainted so the CIA could continue to claim the unmarked airplanes (all markings were removed when they were baled to the CIA) were not U.S. airplanes. 

Question regarding the unmarked 130s:were the mod/data plates removed when the tail codes and tail numbers were removed?How about on the birds that had the easily removed and/or swopped numbers.Did they retain the original mod plates?

Not pressurized. Really,can't be.

Dutch got it right ---   again.The work order came down from Maint. control to the 780 shop.They droped the winch off at the acft.I don't remember the  capacity but it could pull one hell of a  load.Slow but powerful.The kit shown in the O/P was handy sometimes but wasn't as heavy duty as the big yellow beast.   

I was hoping  Dutch would weigh in on this.He didn't disapoint.

After having read posts from him on this site for  years we get the feeling that we know him even though we've never met face to face. We,on this site all share something of importance to us. Very sad  and shocking to read of his passing.I express sincere condolences to his family and friends.

Pretty much a unanimous feeling in the C130 community with people who worked on or flew the Herk.Having worked on many different types of aircraft after the 130 it remains my NUMBER 1!

23 hours ago, AMPTestFE said:

WTF is a C130J helicopter turbofan engine?

Was wondering the same thing.

19 hours ago, jbob said:

Guess I was not aware there were Center Wing Box options from the factory.  Interesting!

RZ still refers to the "company "as lock greed

2 hours ago, BRlang said:

E-3 when I got to CCK in April 1970 and made E-4 soon after. I spent every penny I made every month. Add separate rations and your per diem from trips and that bought lots of Mongolian BBQ. At the end of the month when things ran thin you could always throw on a flight suit and hit midnight chow for a quarter....if you were sober enough to walk over there that is... 

Hey,I forgot all about separate rats! Per diem in the states,for TAC people didn't amount to much.However in Europe it was different  story!Up to $24.00 a day in some places. 

9 hours ago, BRlang said:

In Vietnam I got both. Combat Pay and Flight pay...I was double rich there. That's a lot of Piasters....

What rank were you?How much were you "salting" away?That's a nice piece of change every pay day!As an E4 in '64 on H.D.I was pulling down a BIG $235.00 a month and I didn't "salt" any away.

53 minutes ago, Sonny said:

I always thought that Crew Chiefs on flying status should be allowed to wear wings. JMHO

That would depend on weather the crew chiefs were on flying status or on hazardous duty status.Flight pay increased with rank.H.D. pay was a flat $55.00 a month regardless of rank.Flight status-wings were authorized.C.C.on H.D.-the leather name tags on your flight jacket and flight suit had wings.Thats the way it was in the 317th/322nd in the '60s.

11 hours ago, pavane88 said:

Hi.

I have a question. 

Igniting state is called 'lightoff'

What is the meaning and etymology of 'lightoff'?

It is an engineering sense to describe ignition as 'lightoff' rather than 'light'

Waiting for your answer!!

What is the meaning of etymology?

2 hours ago, larry myers said:

No to the best of my recollection.

There were, however, a couple of exceptional happenings.

TAC quickly transferred a squadron of C-130Es and F-4Es to the Israel AF.

Daily there several El Al B747s on the Langley ramp loading munitions from Yorktown Naval Weapons Station. 

Wow! Never heard a word about that!Exceptional happenings for sure.

4 hours ago, bobdaley said:

Just a guess, but they may have wanted to make sure that the arresting cables did not catch on the gear door.

Bob

Probably a good guess but I didn't see any cross deck pendents.My guess would be to keep the doors from hitting the deck in case the tires  blew on touch down and the struts were fully compressed.

I just watched the video of the 130 landing on the carrier.I've seen it several times before but the resolution on the old films was poor on them.Watching this video and for the first time I noted that the main gear doors have been removed.