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  1. Another acronym that might follow after you guys visited them " establishment's" mentioned here is DNIF, but only until the penicillin kicked in. Ha-Ha. I'm not making fun of you VN guys, 10 years later on the other side of the world in Germany down town Frankfurt had a place named Kaiser Strasse. that place put a new meaning to the phrase window shopping. K street was the start of a lot of fun stories. As you guys say, or so I'v heard.

    DNIF: Drunk, Not Interested in Flying.

  2. It was an E model and had a FE. The crew day was involuntarily extended for "presidential support" after Clinton vacationed there and there was some equipment to be piceked up. One or two secret service agents were on the plane. After take off ATC directed them to fly towards the mountain they hit. It was a young crew that had been on the road for several days and then that day was extended because no one says no to "presidential support". The AF reaction was to use a climb gradient for take off and use TERPS. Sometimes the climb gradient wouldn't allow you to takeoff when the performance charts said you would miss the obstacle on two engines. A sad mishap caused by a simple mistake and then an over reaction to it. A better standard for a crew briefing and flight planning would have been a far better fix.

    I was referring to the C-17, but you are correct about KJAC. They have had a lot of runway overruns there as well. It's getting to be an FAA hotspot. My company even made takeoff there part of my last sim ride.

    I remember going TDY up to Charlie West out of Pope and working with the WV guard. Fun flyin!

  3. Not C-130 humor but when I was active duty AF I worked transient alert. When we got a new guy we would show them how the boundry layer control on F-4s worked. After a F-4 sat in the rain the BLC ducts in the wing leading edge would fill with water. When the pilot dropped the flaps after cranking up the bleed air would blow the water out. We would have a new guy stand behind the wing and get soaked. You really did get to see how it workd.:eek:

    Ha! I loved that one when I was a Phantom Phixer! Helped to cool you off on a hot day, too.

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