Guest Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I was browsing the gallery and an image of this aircraft popped up in the random images. Anyone know what happened to cause the damage that resulted it it being written off in Nov 84? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaprad Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Here's all I could find on it. "November 2, 1984 : C-130E 68-10946, c/n 4326, of the 37th Tactical Airlift Squadron, hard landing at Giebelstadt Army Air Field, West Germany, ferried to Lockheed-Georgia at Marietta - nose section used to repair c/n 4029, C-130E 64-0539, of the 317th Tactical Airlift Wing, damaged when it ran off runway at Lajes, Azores, April 1984." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Casey, One of the Sheetmetal guys who was involved with that sits next to me here at work so if you need any details about it let me know. Sonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) The term "hard landing" does not describe it very well. The pilot tried to save a bad approach, ran out of airspeed, altitude and ideas all at the same time and slammed into the ground on the right rear wheel. The right side landing gear gave away. Then we slammed down on the nose gear and it folded under as we slid down the runway. The number 4 prop was still spinning, hitting the concrete, and breaking off pieces and throwing them through the right side of the airplane. One of the ORI inspectors in the back got a skull fracture from something flying around and one loadmaster got hurt, but not bad. I didn't think the airplane was ferried anywhere since we tore the belly structure out of it and messed up the right wing pretty good. I do know Marietta used it to fix 539. Could all have been avoided by a missed approach and go-around. Bad deal all around. Edited April 27, 2009 by Roy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalbasher Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I don't know anything about 946, but do know that 539 was "Franken-Herk" as they say. Worked it at Pope and Yokota. It was rumored to have had major structural damage and was peice-milled back together with bits and pieces of 3-4 different acft that were donors for one reason or another. Ran across a few things weren't necessarily the way they should have been, especially in comparison to other acft, structurally anyway. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Pacer Join was the project name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llecrupwt Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 For those wondering where 64-0539 is now, it has been at Minneapolis for a few years. It was sent here with the intention of being a "Herk on a Stick". All it has done is to shuffle back and forth from the AFRC ramp to the ANG ramp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe.dawson Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 The loadmaster was SMS Ken Regan. I worked at 435th Stan Eval with him. The other loadmaster took the Booster Suction Boost pump in the ribs when it seperated from the bulkhead. I computed the landing data for the accident board in their investigation. They did in fact land long and there was not enough runway to have stopped. The Army didn't have runway remaining markers along the sides of the runway. It was mainly a helicopter field. Joe Dawson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Joe/Roy, Wasn't the AC also in stan/eval? Pretty good pilot, as I remember. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Yes he was. Kind of a "golden boy" I think. I often thought he was pushing too hard because it was the first mission of their ORI and he wanted to do good. Didn't turn out that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe.dawson Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Joe/Roy, Wasn't the AC also in stan/eval? Pretty good pilot, as I remember. Don R. I think his name was Dalby. He was an up and comer within the squadron. But I don't remember him as being in Stan Eval. I also remember an old crusty Lt Col that Mac sent in to fly with Dalby to get him requaled. At cruise altitude the old guy reached up and shutdown an engine with out any explanation just to see Dalby composure. The Lt Col who's name escapes me was from the 16th back at Little Rock. I had flown with him many times at the school house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Dalby was listed on the flight orders as a flight examiner pilot. I had flown with him several times when I was assigned to Rhein Main and always thought him to be a good pilot. Just shows, to me at least, that any of us can have a bad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wilson Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 The co was Andy Childers if I remember right. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Dan Aren't those pictures of 64-0539 at Lajes? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmac_Project Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes they are because the nose section of 10946 was intact after its landing and was later cut off and shipped to fix 0539. Remember seeing the nose being trucked across the base and loade on a C-5 over on the 7th SOS ramp next to the tower. Engine Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EClark Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I think 64-0539 was at Sewart in the 61st while I was there I hated to see her in that predicament she looked pretty beat up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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