DC10FE Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 OK, I know a lot of you guys/gals work in commercial aviation, so I'm addressing this question to you. The last time I was in the cockpit as a crewmember was in 8/03 and from my screen name, yep, it was a DC-10. So, here's my question -- does FedEx still fly any DC-10's or have they all been modified to MD-10's? The answer will win/lose me a bet with a friend. A case of beer is riding on the correct answer, so if the answer is no more DC-10's, c'mon over and share a beer or two (or more) with me. Conversely, if the answer is that FedExstill flys the DC-10, please send me a buck toward the fund for the case of beer I'll have to spring for. Thanks, Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Don I think you won. In 2009 they had 13 DC-10's all parked. They were only operating MC-10's. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Don, just for your info, here at UPS all of the DC-10s are MD-11s - glass cockpit, 2 pilots. Same for the 747s. We have the MD-11 and 747-400 sims here at the training facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3_Super_Bee Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Don, just for your info, here at UPS all of the DC-10s are MD-11s - glass cockpit, 2 pilots. Same for the 747s. We have the MD-11 and 747-400 sims here at the training facility. The MD-11 is a completely different production aircraft... One thing being the MD-11 has roughly a 400K heavier MTOW...(MD-11 to a DC-10F-30) The MD-10's started life as a DC-10 and been retrofitted with a Rigid Cargo Barrier, of which the DC-10 & MD-11 do not have, allows for more crew space, and elmination of the Net Stretch saftey area... Also they are retrofitted with MD-11 type glass flight station eliminating the F/E. As far as I know, FedEx is the only company to have opted for the MD-10 mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 The MD-11 is a completely different production aircraft... One thing being the MD-11 has roughly a 400K heavier MTOW...(MD-11 to a DC-10F-30) The MD-10's started life as a DC-10 and been retrofitted with a Rigid Cargo Barrier, of which the DC-10 & MD-11 do not have, allows for more crew space, and elmination of the Net Stretch saftey area... Also they are retrofitted with MD-11 type glass flight station eliminating the F/E. As far as I know, FedEx is the only company to have opted for the MD-10 mod. Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jansen Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Thanks for the interesting question. Here is what my research has found: DC-10-10 - Retired 2009 DC-10-30 - Retired 2010 MD-10-10 - 58 in service MD-10-30 - 17 in service MD-11 - 63 in service Proof is here: http://fedex.com/us/investorrelations/Q3FY11_stat_book.pdf on page 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) Thanks for all the positive replies. Ya'll better get yer asses over here if you want to share in this case of beer. The weekend's fast approaching and a case of beer doesn't last very long at this address. Oh, you don't have my address? Tough, more for me! Just kidding -- you're all welcome. Don R. Edited May 27, 2011 by DC10FE spelling again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I checked with one of our MD-11 instructors here. He said that the MD-11 was about 10 feet longer than the DC-10, and that the aft end was smaller than the DC-10, saving about 2,000 lbs in weight. Learn something new all the time. Or maybe just re-newing brain cell memories that have fallen under KRAFT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3_Super_Bee Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I checked with one of our MD-11 instructors here. He said that the MD-11 was about 10 feet longer than the DC-10, and that the aft end was smaller than the DC-10, saving about 2,000 lbs in weight. Learn something new all the time. Or maybe just re-newing brain cell memories that have fallen under KRAFT. Wanna say the MD-11 has a larger wingspan, to go along with the longer fuselage as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Wanna say that according to the instructor the wings are the same as the DC-10, as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 Wanna say the wingspan on the DC-10 is 155' 4" and the Mad Dog is 169' 6" Just sayn' Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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