DC10FE 29 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Does anyone know if any data exists for a no-flap takeoff on the Herc? Lockheed? Thanks, Don R. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fred 14 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yes. Procedure published for three-engines, maximum effort, and flaps-up takeoffs. So, performance data is published in the T.O. 1C-130-1-1 and I would expect also the SMP 777. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DC10FE 29 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Thanks, Fred. It's been a while. Never thought to look in the 1-1. Don R. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BRlang 43 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 How bout 100% flaps. Did one on accident. Dirt strip up close to Cambodia. Landed and taxied onto the ramp. No forklift and nobody met the plane. Figured the field was hot. Did a speed off load and taxied back onto the runway in one quick move. I was still closing the ramp and door when we started engine run up and soon as the door closed light went out AC released the brakes. I held on to the left paratroop door and away we went. Normal takeoff until we got to about 50 kts. then hard to accelerate but then we just jumped onto the air. Your pretty much committed to fly off a 2700" strip. Ain't no stopping at that point. Everybody missed the flaps in before takeoff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herb 10 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Have also performed this “procedure”. After doing many night max efforts at DYS, we taxied, lined up, and cobbled the power. Just like the Buffs, off we went. Second time we had some outside motivation from the locals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DC10FE 29 Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 20 hours ago, BRlang said: How bout 100% flaps. Did one on accident. Dirt strip up close to Cambodia. Landed and taxied onto the ramp. No forklift and nobody met the plane. Figured the field was hot. Did a speed off load and taxied back onto the runway in one quick move. I was still closing the ramp and door when we started engine run up and soon as the door closed light went out AC released the brakes. I held on to the left paratroop door and away we went. Normal takeoff until we got to about 50 kts. then hard to accelerate but then we just jumped onto the air. Your pretty much committed to fly off a 2700" strip. Ain't no stopping at that point. Everybody missed the flaps in before takeoff. Yep, did it a couple of times with Transafrik in Angola -- not on purpose, of course! Don R. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BRlang 43 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Who needs a dang checklist anyway.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PAF_Herc 0 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 On 10/27/2017 at 2:37 AM, Fred said: Yes. Procedure published for three-engines, maximum effort, and flaps-up takeoffs. So, performance data is published in the T.O. 1C-130-1-1 and I would expect also the SMP 777. Sir are you Mr Fred Harsany? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
US Herk 10 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I've done all 3 flap configuration takeoffs...other than 50%, not on purpose. The plane flies fine....but the 0% flap was a bit 'heavy' on the yoke. ? (thankfully, a very long runway too) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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