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Where's Tiny Clark when you need him?

Don R.

I'm not a pointy-head so I probably don't have a clue about what I'm talking about, but I think I remember the wing tip taxi lights interfering with the flux valve -- whatever the hell that is.

Don R.

I used to pull the wing tip taxi light circuit breaker as part of the Before Take-off checklist.

I'm with Larry -- I remeber the forward and aft urinals being there from day #1 and my day #1 started in 1963.

Don R.

Why is it that when I go to check on someone's bio, Mt. crewchief and Larry Meyers have already been there?

Why is it that some people leave their bio's blank? It's easier to reply to a question or a statement when one knows a little about that person.

Don R.

Don, it didn't have an FE. FEs first appeared on flying boats, then on B-29s.

Sam, did I get the "first pressurized passenger airplane" correct?

Don R.

[it was the first pressurized passenger airliner and the first to have an FE.

Don R.

So you are saying that's where your FE days started Don...... on the first one that is.......just wonderin'. Bill

I remember they used to show it at commander's call occasionally. Good entertainment.

Don R.

Boeing 307?

Yep, Boeing 307 of Air Vietnam. I remember it used to park at the civilian terminal right around the corner from Rebel Ramp.

It was the first pressurized passenger airliner and the first to have an FE.

Don R.

I was only on the East Coast once & that was at Dover. I can imagine what it would be like there if Irene stays on it's current route!!! I suppose Rehoboth Beach is going to see some damage!

Anyway, right now it sounds like it is the real deal so you guys be careful.

It sounds like it could be no joking matter so take care,

Ken

Ken,

My girlfriend's son is an Army firefighter at Pope. He said all the C-130's are gone -- as of yesterday (8/26). All the helo's are in hangers.

Don R.

. Oil tank was on the APU where the GTC oil tank was in the cargo compartment, starters turned in opposite directions.....just saying. Bill

I always thought that was backwards -- you could service the oil tank on the GTC in flight, but couldn't run it, where as, on the APU, you could run it in flight but had no access to the oil tank. WTF?

Don R.

Later on, in the early sevenites, USAF started buying a later version of the H that had some additional improvements such as a GTC that could be started in flight (GTC stands for gas turbine compressor which includes ALL turbine engines) and Lockheed started calling it an APU since that was the term they were using on the C-141 and C-5.

Sam,

The original trash-hauling H-models were the FY 1973 models ("Super E's") with what we know as the GTC. Starting in 1974, they were fitted with the APU, which could be operated in flight, although the FAA never certified it to be used in flight on the commercial Hercs.

Don R.

OK, I may be waaaay out of touch with this "kinder, gentler" Air Force, but what the hell is a TOLD card bag? Ya really need a bag to carry around your TOLD card now? I used to just stick my card in the flap of my -1 binder.

Don R.

The 73's are the original "H" models, .

Paul,

I hate to pick a nit here, but the original H-model was 64-14853 (4037). Yeah, I know you're talking slicks, just had to add my 2¢

Don R.

P3,

With the exception of the white vertical stripes on the vertical stab, it sounds like you're describing Tepper Aviation's N4557C (5027).

As for the plywood flooring, before Transafrik acquired roller systems for their Hercs, everything was floor loaded. The cargo floors were covered with plywood sheets with cutouts for the tiedown rings. Lots of Herc operators do that if they don't have rollers.

Don R.

It will be the 2400th Herk to be built (LM doesn't count the prototypes

Jansen,

Since I'm basically a retired lazy person, I'm not going to go through Lars' book counting the number of Hercs built, but does that 2,400 include the three commercial Hercs that Lockheed denies having been built -- N82178 (55048), N8213G (5055) and N8218J (5056)?

Don R.

In December, I'll have been retired for 26 years, but last year, I heard from my neighbor that one could retire with less than 20 years and still get a percentage of one's pay. True?

Don R.

Hey, Don

I've got photos somewhere in a box in the attic, I believe. I remember they jacked the plane up and put a ton of honeycomb under the wings in preparation for the crane . . . and for some reason, I think the load was Joe Withers . . . but that was a loooong time ago.

Sucks getting old, but beats the alternative, I guess.

Kim

Kim,

Well, don't just sit there -- get your ass up in the attic!!!

Yeah, the 37th was a lot of fun; especially in 1977/78 when we first started up. I've never met so many insane crewmembers in one squadron!

Don R.

I just finished "The Mulla's Storm" -- excellent!!! I bought the book at Sam's Club and what caught my eye was the Ramstein C-130 on the cover, "RS"

Do ya think Major Parson and Sgt Gold ever hooked up?

Don R.

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Don R.

Hi Jim,

I remember flying with you on a few trips. Fun times back them @ Rhein Main. Didn't the AC get out a few months after that incident? The photos I saw were after it had been moved to the Navy ramp.

I don't have Billy Legg's address anymore. He was working at the sim @ Pope, but that was a few years ago. Don't know now.

Don R.

What response?

Well, ya know it's not a trash hauler.

Still not impressed, eh?

Don R.

Thanks, Sonny.

If I remember correctly, that post may have been a reply to a request from me a few years ago. I sent an email to that address and got a reply that he would send the pics, but never heard from him again. I'll try that address again. I'll let you know the results.

Don R.

I consider the date of 1954 wrong. I was in the 773rd TCS at Ardmore AFB, OK and we got the first C-130 in the Fall of 1956. It must have been on the drawing board in 1954. Before that we had C-119 Flying Boxcars.

snowyday

According to Lars' book, the YC-130 53-3397 first flew on 8/23/54. The first "real" C-130A, 53-3129 ("The First Lady"), first flew on 4/7/55. A few nits to pick here, but it's still a funny poster -- and true!

Don R.

I just love those "motivational" posters. Check this one out.

Don R.

Keeps people from using the photos illegally. Airliners has a very strict copyright rules. They actively look for violators and have been known to have websites shutdown from using their(and the photographers who submit the photos) photos. A simple email to the photographer with a request for any photo should net you an "unmarked" (at least visually, most likely will have an invisible watermark) photo for private use.

I realize the reason for the watermarks -- I'm just too freekin' lazy to request an unmarked photo from the photographer. I also have some unmarked photos posted on A.net that are being used on other web sites (ASN, AirDisaster.com) and, personally, I think their use is a compliment to my photos. Of course, I'm not a professional potographer either.

Sorry, Mich -- looks like I've successfully hijacked your thread again.

Don R.