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Posts posted by pjvr99
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Bob, no real difference to what I said. However, having had a few hours to think, your
thermal camera idea may have a lot of merit .......
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A shredded rag attached to safety wire for checking bleed air leaks in the nacelle always worked for me...
True, also spraying the suspect area(s) with NDI penetrant developer will
give you a good idea without the risk of a man-on-stand check
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I was around then a know the said ACFT and crew well. Chief Vail was a family friend . Summit 38 was a tragic loss. If anybody WIKI's the Summit 838 accident there are a few inaccurate pieces in that write up. Not fun being at the wrong end of a accident investigation board. Anybody that would like to know more just ask.
Can't seem to find it, so I'm asking ...... Maybe start a separate thread ......
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Lucky man. Would've played hell chasing a broken thermocouple or thermocouple harness. Good find .......
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If it hot starts only in Auto, you most definitely have a wiring, or TD Amp problem;
Wrong!! A messed up TD valve has done this to me before. Cost going back over 5 TD amps to verify they were
actually good. For the same price, sticky FCU bellows can have you chasing you tail
Someone here said the 130 will make a liar out of you; it's true.It just did! If your 5th & 10th bleed valves are closed, you should hit 810° at about 35% rpm in AUTO, at which point
the engine will bog down if the TD system is strong. Alternately, if you are in NULL, you'll be passing 900°C before you
could get the condition lever to STOP or FEATHER.
Don't be fooled by the obvious - double check EVERYTHING, look at (and see) what your gauges are telling you
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Trev,
If the nozzle is coked or damaged in some way, the fuel blows back through the nozzle. It is a shroud that
allows air to mix with the fuel before injecting into the combustion can. This 'blowback' occurs in the diffuser,
and therefore easily taken into the 14th stage bleed ducts
Invert aircraft - error will go away :rofl:
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As brothers mentioned that a “Compressor Tight Engine” is one possible cause of the defect. (engine failed to rotate during air start).
The question for brothers having experience on “Tight Engines” is; such engine; dose it show some indications during ground check?
Such as:
1- Repeated failure to rotate during start, when still hot.
2- Repeated starter failure.
3- Above 100% efficiency.
6- Visual evidence of “Rubbing” on the compressor blades tips (fifth & tenth stages compressor check).
7- Rubbing noise during “hand rotation” when engine still hot; etc…
For the sake of knowledge, comments will be appreciated.
1010
Over the years had a number of high performers up to 113%, but none of the problems you
mentioned. We simply followed the seal break-in procedure in TO 2J-T56-56 SWP 058 03 Sect 13
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Hey guys,
Got a bit of a head-scratcher. What is the difference between GTC model GTC85-71, and GTC85-71A? What T.O. no's
are relevant to each? What part numbers are valid for GTC85-71A?
Tnx
PJ
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Check out NTS function on the RGB
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Cable and control-rod fair leads. Pressure bulkhead cannon plugs.
If all else fails, pressurize the aircraft, have breathing apparatus for your crew inside, and pop a smoke grenade .......
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Good bit of troubleshooting 1010, and good feedback, too.
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I have recently had a rash of extremely high AUTO starts, AUTO T/O TIT, and fails NORMAL LIMITING check. All
are using solid state amplifiers. TD amp is driving the valve to PUT condition. I have also had an instance where
the Y-box leadset was damaged. Y-box shows everything on the numbers, but on startup AUTO TIT is 830°C,
take off will happily go past 1083° with the throttle still well short of the stop. NORMAL LIMITING check just
overtemps with no TIT cut-back. RICH/LEAN check shows a 50 - 60°C lean
Before I figured out what the problem was, I recalibrated the cells indication system, installed my thermocouple
swap-over relay, and generally spent a lot of time chasing my tail. Also slaved in various relay boxes, J3 leads,
on one occasion a coordinator, and another occasion a TD VALVE, and even thermocouples, t/c harnesses, T-blocks,
and y-lead.
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Anybody using a portable vibration analyzer?
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Thanx htf, but no good. As per FEDLOG
Code: VDescription: TERMINAL ITEM. IDENTIFIES ITEMS IN STOCK, BUT FUTURE PROCUREMENT IS NOT AUTHORIZED. REQUISITIONS MAY CONTINUE TO BE SUBMITTED UNTIL STOCKS ARE EXHAUSTED. PREFERRED ITEM NATIONAL STOCK NUMBER IS NORMALLY PROVIDED BY APPLICATION OF THE PHRASE: WHEN EXHAUSTED USE (NSN). REQUISITIONS WILL BE SUBMITTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH IMM/SERVICE REQUISITIONING PROCEDURES AS APPLICABLE.
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Hey HerkyWorld
Looking for valid PartNo or NSN for compressor wash carts. Mine have reached the
point where they can no longer be repaired.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated
PJ
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Sounds like a bus power problem. Look for a dry joint on a cannon plug pin, or
chafing in a 'P'-clamp ....... just spent 2 days chasing an RGB oil pressure flux
problem. Gauge would start flickering at about 850°C TIT and get worse as the
throttle was moved to T/O. Turned out to be one of the signal wires chafing
against the QEC frame, as the QEC twists in anti-torque.
Your problem sounds similar, increased 'G' in the turn, something flexing, who
knows. Hope you find it easily!!
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DanMan,I have the same question as TB400 - is that a CELTECH cell? I run a T21D
in Jeddah, KSA. The torque cal is done exactly the same as for the aircraft. A few
years ago the computer cr@pped out, and I modified the cell with parallel analogue
gauges. First thing I noticed when we got the computer running again, was a large
difference in torque at high power settings. It took several weeks of tweaking the
calibration files to get the 2 displays to read the same
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Not sure what oil from the FCU drain indicates as the fuel pump drain is also drained
on that line.
What you're indicating with the RPM is a valve housing governor failure. The prop
starts governing at 55 - 60° on the coordinator. Alternately, the synchrophaser is
also known to screw things up, even when master is not selected. Also a bad tach
generator, or prop pulse generator could be the culprit
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First problem is starting an engine with ATM on - don't!! It's in the tech data ........
As to the surging, this is caused by the ACCELERATION thermostat setting being
the same or lower than the LOAD CONTROL thermostat setting. LOAD CONTROL is
set at 649°C - 663°C, while ACCELERATION is 677°C - 688°C.
Remember: simply installing new thermostats also won't fix the problem, as they
are factory set at about 590°C. You need to get the GTC onto a test stand .....
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These things have been giving problems for more than 50 years. The P3 props use a pressure switch on the primary pump to give indication
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When doing the droop check, do any of the slaves INCREASE rpm?
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Just between you and me... and all the other Herkybird members...
3 bad valve housings... NO WAY!!!
one bad sync box I belive.....
Throttle anticipation will start the blades moving in the right direction "Prior" to the change in engine speed brought on by throttle movement.
Reduction in throttle equals a reduction in blade angle "too slow of a reaction" low RPM and gen out lights.
Three BAD valve housings with the SAME issue....?????
I'm with NATOPS1 on this. While new VH may temporarily 'fix' the problem, I think it going to haunt you. Another thought came up: when the generator out lights come on, do the lights remain on, or just momentary flicker? Do the generators remain on line?
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Sounds like a problem on the main and essential AC busses. Generator out light should only
come on when the frequency falls below 380Hz (95%rpm). If the rpm actually fell that low
during a throttle back from 1077° to 1010°, it would be my guess you'd more than likely have
a flame out ....... in which case the generator out lights would be on :-(
throttle come forward in flight to flight
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Check for wear on gimbal bearings and bushings, check pressure bulkhead fairleads, check valve housing cover.