Fred Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 looking at some (but not all) recent dash-ones, it appears that they deleted the sub step: "rudder boost pressure - checked" on the flaps retraction step. Wonder if there is a reason for this? The books do caution still in section 5 about full or abrupt rudder inputs with high boost. Maybe that substep was never in some of the manuals? It was in the L-382 manuals and the ones Lockheed sells the foreign customers, as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lownslow Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I believe the Caution is there but I've never seen a substep to check the rudder boost pressure during the after takeoff checklist in any of the Air Force Flight Manuals for models I've flown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPTestFE Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 What's a Caution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkman Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Caution is higher loading than a warning. It means there can be a danger of injury or loss of life. Normally the explanations are given in the front of the various tec orders. REGARDS Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lownslow Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Oh, retired Pete is just jackin' with us. He is just rubbing it in that he is a Mr. and I'm not. I have orders Pete, and they aint PCS orders. Pretty soon I will have forgotten what a Note, Warning or Caution is too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleagle Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Crewdogs! For some reason I got the "pinch" when reading/talking about the order of degree when mentioning "Note", "Caution" or "Warning. Had to break out the old -1 and found I still had some sanity left: "Note: Operating procedures, techniques, etc which are considered essential to emphasize" "Caution: Operating procedures, techniques, etc which could result in damage to equipment if not carefully followed" "Warning: Operating procedures, techniques, etc which could result in personal injury or loss of life if not carefully followed" Of course theres always the para about "Sound Judgement" on the preceding page but in the note, caution and warning lineup I'm a thinking (my old evaluator node) warning is the top dog when talking "uh oh's" As to the checklist concern - sorry, can't help Ya there without talking with an FE - sorry! Ya'll behave or just don't get bloody caught! Bert "Rowdy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bischoffm Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Are not the flight manuals changed, edited, and maintained by flight crew? If it has changed and there is a problem whereas it should be there, you should fill out an AF Form 847 to change it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPTestFE Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 You'll never forget! When's the date? I think I'll need to make a trip for this one! You heard SMSgt B has done the same, right? Sorry Col, I was being sarcastic, and not because I'm rubbing it in 'cause I'm retired. Quite the contrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjj Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I've never seen it in a USAF -1, but if it was removed it may be due to the gauges being moved to the boost packs on the H3 BJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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