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    Individual C-130 Aircraft Main. Forms???

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    Ken,

    Here is a list of the 781 forms. I believe we used to keep them all on the aircraft. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    Sonny

    AFTO FORM 781 SERIES

    AFTO Form 781, AFORMS (Air Force Operations Resource Management System) Aircrew/

    Mission Flight Data Document

    AFTO Form 781A, Maintenance Discrepancy and Work Document

    AFTO Form 781B, Communications Security (COMSEC) Equipment Record

    AFTO Form 781C, Avionics Configuration and Load Status Document

    AFTO Form 781D, Calendar and Hourly Item Inspection Document

    AFTO Form 781E, Accessory Replacement

    AFTO Form 781F, Aerospace Vehicle Flight Report and Maintenance Document

    AFTO Form 781G, General Mission Classification

    AFTO Form 781H, Aerospace Vehicle Flight Status and Maintenance Document

    AFTO Form 781J, Aerospace Vehicle Engine Flight Document

    AFTO Form 781K, Aerospace Vehicle Inspection, Engine Data, Calendar Inspection, and

    Delayed Discrepancy Document

    AFTO Form 781L, Record of Removal/Installation of Controlled Cryptographic Items (CCI)

    AFTO Form 781M, Status Symbols and Functional System Codes

    AFTO Form 781N, J-79 Engine Runup Record

    Individual C-130 Aircraft Main. Forms???

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    Ken,

    I, for one would love to see the old forms. My recollection is that we initiated discrepancies on the 781a. I would also assume that the records are only kept for a designated number of years or, in this day and age, may be computerized. I seem to remember turning over the completed forms (after carrying forward any open items) to the shift supervisor (you know, the guy in the bread truck who was never around when you needed him. Thank God for anti-collision lights!!)). I also assume he turned them over to operations. Who knows?

    Sonny 56-0533 Naha '67-'68

    What kind of soldier are you?

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    You Scored as Special Ops

    Special ops. You're sneaky, tactful, and a loner. You prefer to do your jobs alone, working where you don't come into contact with people. But every once in a while you hit it big and are noticed and given fame. You're given the more sensitive problems. You get things done, and do what has to be done. You are competent, resourceful, and resiliant. "VULCAN NECK PINCH!!!" "owww.......(slump)"

    Special Ops

    100%

    Artillery/Aircraft

    100%

    Support Gunner

    88%

    Combat Infantry/Armor

    88%

    Officer

    75%

    Medic

    63%

    Engineer

    50%

    Civilian

    0%

    Anyone recognize these young troops?

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    Hyattsville, MD???? You are on the other end of the state from me. ain't nobody any lamer on a computer than me ,but Bob and Casey made this a very friendly site. Just clikc at the lower right corner of the message panel on Go advanced, and just follow the path. easy to do. If i can, anybody can

    giz

    Thanks, I'll give it a try.

    Sonny

    RGB Failure

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    I hope somebody has the story, and can also explain why they installed the intake plug!?!

    Don't know the story but the intake plug was obviously installed to protect the engine from FOD. Sorry, just couldn't resist!

    Acft Tail Codes

    in C-130 Historical

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    I can't recall when the tail codes were started either, but it must have been late '67 or early '68. I've seen a photo of an A model from the 21st, with tail code YD, making a drop at Khe Sanh in 1968. Our aircaft at Nha Trang didn't have anything ('67-'70). By the time I left Nha Trang and went to CCK in 1970 the acft there already had them.

    When I got to Naha in May 1967 all of the 21st birds (except "E" Flight) had the YD tail code on them. Sonny

    Help Wanted: Tail Identifications

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    Unsure where you got your information for the first four listings. I was a LM in the 21st TAS at Naha AB, Dec 1968 – Apr 1971, and our C–130A tail codes were YD – 21st TAS, YJ – 35th TAS, YP – 41st TAS, and YU – 817th TAS.

    John H Moore, SMSgt Ret

    John,

    You are correct. I also was in the 21st from May'67 til Oct'68 (Asst. Crew Chief on 56-0489 and Crew Chief on 56-0533).

    Sonny

    AIRCRAFT 56-0477

    in C-130 Historical

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    jrkaegi wrote:

    Those are the ranks they were promoted to as MIAs. The SMS was actually an E-5 loadmaster at the time but he had crosstrained from another field. The Air Force was not good about putting correct AFSCs on casualty reports as they were drawn up by Admin clerks using personnel records and this has caused a lot of confusion. There is a question as to why the FMS troop was on the airplane since maintenance personnel normally did not fly on combat missions. It is believe he may have been onboard to take care of problems with the NOD device since he had an instrument AFSC. However, both he and the AC were from Arkansas so he might have been allowed to go along on a joy ride. The 23rd TASS officer was a recently arrived navigator who went along as an observer before he started his own missions in O-2s. The normal flare mission crew at that time was seven - two pilots, a nav, a flight engineer and three loadmasters. A fourth loadmaster had been part of the crew until the flare chute was modifed with levers to hold the flares and a crewmember was no longer reguired to set on the door.

    Another possibility for the FMS troop is that he was one of a handful of maintenance personnel who were given temporary assignments as loadmasters during a loadmaster shortage in late 1968-early 1969. Bill Barrett obtained a copy of the 374th TAW history and the flare mission section describes how that loadmasters from other C-130 units were sent TDY to Ubon to augment the Naha crews. Some of the guys who were there at the time have told me that the wing placed some maintenance personnel on temporary flying status with a loadmaster AFSC to fly flare missions, then they went back to maintenance at the end of the tour. The ninth person could have been a loadmaster flying with an experienced crew before he went out with his own crew. All new flare mission personnel flew at least one mission with another crew as an observer before their crew started flying together.

    This was the first flareship lost over The Trail. A second was lost in November 1969.

    The second one lost was 56-0533. I was the C/C until I rotated stateside in October 1968.

    planes on Eglin

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    Yep, the E-model is 63-7872. I too watched the Chuck slowly get torn down. I think the Chuck was involved in the ill-fated "Stinger" gunship proposal, and I think the Herk is involved in gun tests as well, as it's parked next to A-22, which is the main gun test site, and the fact that the LH external is removed, making it easier to do "stuff" on the left side of the airplane.

    7872 was a great plane in '66. I was the acc on her when she was at McGuire.

    Chow Halls

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    While "racked and stacked" at the Kohbar Towers we always made it a point to swipe the crew truck and head over to "Lucky Base". For some reason the buncha' trailer doobers they pushed together at the towers was bargain basement stuff, sometimes safer to just live with the MRE's (those days what I wouldn't give for a C-Rat!). Last few years in the "war" I spent some time at Hurlburt - man was that really Grade A grub.

    Fleagle

    Oh yeah! Who's still got their P-38!?

    I still have my P-38 on my key ring. As I recall I had some pretty good chow aboard a Swift Boat out of CRB.

    Sonny

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