Sonny

The only time I was at Tachi was when I had to take 56-0533 there to have the ECM equipment installed.

Sonny

Tusker,

If the .jpg I posted is not what you are looking for, try this:

Purchasing Air Force Badges and Wings

If you wish to buy squadron badges, trade wings, or all manner of miscellany, please contact:

Curator

National Air Force Museum of Canada

CFB Trenton, P.O. Box 1000 Station. Forces

Astra, Ontario K0K 3W0

Phone: (613) 965-2140

Fax: (613) 965-7352

You may also write directly to a Squadron at 8 Wing to acquire squadron patches, t-shirts, or ball-caps.

Hope this helps you in your quest,

Sonny

Tusker,

Is this what you are looking for?

Sonny

Hey Ken,

Look what I found. Thanks to Steen Lunde, he sent it to me since I was the Crew Chief on 533.

Sonny

Sonny, thanks for clarifying what the form numbers were! The 781's I was most concerned with were the daily ones that I think were pretty plain and white in color. They had a place for the Julian Date, the discrepancy, of course the status or severity of the discrepancy, (the diagonal such as the BPO and Preflight and non-grounding things. and of course the Red X which was a grounding discrepancy such as brakes,tires etc. etc.) Then the bottom half of the action taken or something like that and then of course who signed it off! I do remember that an ongoing discrepancy that required a part or whatever was carried fwd. to the 781K when we got back to home base--usually during de-briefing. The 781K was a cardboard sheet in the back of the forms and was yellow. Does that sound right to you??Ken

Ken,

That does sound right to me. I believe all the information you are talking about was found on the 781 and 781A. As far as the 781 K being cardboard or yellow. I really don't remember so you could be right.

Sonny

Donwon and Sonny those forms for taking time was the AFTO Form 210, 211, and 212. The 210 was used on a daily basis to show job completion and how long it took to do it. 211 and 212 was for other stuff such as TCTO's. They had how mal code, ie 070 broke,( my favorite) Bill

Bill,

Thanks, I remember those form numbers now. Just needed a memory jogger. It still seems to me we didn't have to account for time until mid 1968. I only had to do it for a couple of months. Thanks again,

Sonny

By the way Sonny, the 781 A that you enclosed is a little more elaborate than the old ones, but most of the blanks and info needed look familiar!

Ken,

It was the only one I could find on the net. It is different than the ones I remember too, but had all the info. I assumed (there is that word again) it was a newer version.

Sonny

Thanks, Sonny.

If I remember correctly, that post may have been a reply to a request from me a few years ago. I sent an email to that address and got a reply that he would send the pics, but never heard from him again. I'll try that address again. I'll let you know the results.

Don R.

Thanks, I would be interested in seeing the pictures too, if you get them.

Sonny

DC10FE,

Found this on the old Hercules Headquarters Board. Bob left his e-mail as c130rlr@yahoo.com. Don't know if it still is a good one but you can sure try.

Sonny

"I was reviewing my photo albums and came across pictures of 64-0550 when she crashed at Naples Italy (1977?). The photographs show the damage to the aircraft and skid marks on the runway. Is anyone interested in the photos? - - Bob "

While at Sewart we had to account for every minute of the day shift in the forms, then turn them in to the bread truck or the line chief.

I had to account for my time reading the TO,s and cleaning the plane.

I was there Sept 63 till June 65.

I don't recall having to account for my time until sometime in mid 1968. Then I had to fill out some kind of time form and give it to the bread truck driver at the end of my shift.

Sonny

Ken,

Here is a list of the 781 forms. I believe we used to keep them all on the aircraft. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Sonny

AFTO FORM 781 SERIES

AFTO Form 781, AFORMS (Air Force Operations Resource Management System) Aircrew/

Mission Flight Data Document

AFTO Form 781A, Maintenance Discrepancy and Work Document

AFTO Form 781B, Communications Security (COMSEC) Equipment Record

AFTO Form 781C, Avionics Configuration and Load Status Document

AFTO Form 781D, Calendar and Hourly Item Inspection Document

AFTO Form 781E, Accessory Replacement

AFTO Form 781F, Aerospace Vehicle Flight Report and Maintenance Document

AFTO Form 781G, General Mission Classification

AFTO Form 781H, Aerospace Vehicle Flight Status and Maintenance Document

AFTO Form 781J, Aerospace Vehicle Engine Flight Document

AFTO Form 781K, Aerospace Vehicle Inspection, Engine Data, Calendar Inspection, and

Delayed Discrepancy Document

AFTO Form 781L, Record of Removal/Installation of Controlled Cryptographic Items (CCI)

AFTO Form 781M, Status Symbols and Functional System Codes

AFTO Form 781N, J-79 Engine Runup Record

Ken,

I, for one would love to see the old forms. My recollection is that we initiated discrepancies on the 781a. I would also assume that the records are only kept for a designated number of years or, in this day and age, may be computerized. I seem to remember turning over the completed forms (after carrying forward any open items) to the shift supervisor (you know, the guy in the bread truck who was never around when you needed him. Thank God for anti-collision lights!!)). I also assume he turned them over to operations. Who knows?

Sonny 56-0533 Naha '67-'68

Well next time we are going to require some advance notice.

Will do my best to give advance notice.

Sonny

"The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." I am alive and well. My real name is not Horace (it's much worse in my opinion). Thanks for your concern.

Sonny

You Scored as Special Ops

Special ops. You're sneaky, tactful, and a loner. You prefer to do your jobs alone, working where you don't come into contact with people. But every once in a while you hit it big and are noticed and given fame. You're given the more sensitive problems. You get things done, and do what has to be done. You are competent, resourceful, and resiliant. "VULCAN NECK PINCH!!!" "owww.......(slump)"

Special Ops

100%

Artillery/Aircraft

100%

Support Gunner

88%

Combat Infantry/Armor

88%

Officer

75%

Medic

63%

Engineer

50%

Civilian

0%

Dutch,

I got to Naha May, 1967 and it was still TCS and TCW. I believe it was August 1, 1967 when it changed over to TAS and TAW.

Sonny

Ken,

Yes, Tanner was a good guy. I had a lot of respect for him. Did you know Tom Talbert or Tom Edwards? Tom Talbert was in the 35th. Edwards was in the 817th. Used to hang with them a lot at Naha.

Sonny

donwon,

I remember Shifflett as well as Orlando, Peiffer,, Ramierez, Howell and Warnick. All were Crew Chiefs the same time I was (56-0533).

Tanner was line chief while I was there from May '67 until Oct '68.

donwon....The only (M)Sgt. Tanner I remember was the line chief for the 21st. All the barracks looked alike to me!!

Helicopter

This is my graduating class from Chanute AFB, Illinois, March 1965. Aircraft Mechanic, Jet, Over Two Engines. Trained on B-52's and ended up on C-130's. That's me right behind the flag.

Hyattsville, MD???? You are on the other end of the state from me. ain't nobody any lamer on a computer than me ,but Bob and Casey made this a very friendly site. Just clikc at the lower right corner of the message panel on Go advanced, and just follow the path. easy to do. If i can, anybody can

giz

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

Sonny

Help out a computer dummy. How do I post a picture?

I hope somebody has the story, and can also explain why they installed the intake plug!?!

Don't know the story but the intake plug was obviously installed to protect the engine from FOD. Sorry, just couldn't resist!

Thanks!