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I remember going to a MAC Life Support conference in the early 80's Some of the other ANG LS were concerned about armor on the flightdeck. The only idea they had was flak vests under the seat cushions.

Where are you getting your frappin' groceries? Are you driving to Great Lakes NB or W-P AFB?

Just guessing. A FE on-board may have prevented this tragedy.

Some interesting thoughts on the costs and interoperability of the A-400M vs. C-130...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/19/a400m_euro_onanism/[/quote

Big brother to the Eurofighter, except that the engines for the A400 were tested on a Herk. As someone on F-16.net says, "If it has Airbus written on the side, I'm

not getting on it.

P.S. Sounds like the replacement for the KC-135 got screwed up AGAIN.

Enjoy and celebrate your day.

Is this the same Chick Anderson, who was a CMSgt. and an IFE at 22nd AF?

Just tried it on Safari and it dosen't work at all. I'll look into the issue.

Still will not work with Safari. Do you have an update? Thank you.

The Canadian Colonel being charged with murder, Is he a Herk driver?

Don't buy a gun or ammo at wallyworld. They will treat you like a criminal walking out the door. Support you local gun dealer.

A former USSR state now wants to build the replacement for the KC-135.

To LtCol Ventura,

Sir, I am DJ Baker and I would appreciate it if you could tell me what it takes to be an F-16 fighter pilot of the USAF. What classes should I take in high school to help the career I want to take later in my life. What could I do to get in the academy.

Sincerely

DJ Baker

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Subject: FW: Anybody want to help this poor kid from Cyberspace?

From: Lt Col Ventura

Dear DJ,

Obviously, through no fault of your own, your young, impressionable brain has been poisoned by the superfluous, hyped-up, "Top Gun" media portrayal of fighter pilots. Unfortunately, this portrayal could not be further from the truth. In my experience, I've found most fighter pilots pompous, back-stabbing, momma's boys with inferiority complexes, as well as being extremely over-rated aeronautically. However, rather than dash your budding dreams of becoming a USAF pilot, I offer the following alternative.

What you REALLY want to aspire to is the exciting, challenging, and rewarding world of TACTICAL AIRLIFT.

And this, young DJ, means one thing - the venerable, workhorse C-130! I can guarantee no fighter pilot can brag that he has led a 12-ship formation down a valley at 300 ft above the ground, while trying to interpret a 9-line to a new DZ, avoiding pop-up threats, and coordinating with AWACS, all while eating a box lunch, with the engineer in the back taking a piss and the navigator puking in his trash can!

I tell you, DJ, TAC Airlift is where it's at. Where else is it legal to throw tanks, HMMWVs, and other crap out the back of an airplane, and not even worry about it when the chute doesn't open and it torpedos the General's staff car! No where else can you land on a 3,000' dirt strip, kick a bunch of ammo and stuff off the ramp without even stopping, then take off again before range control can call to tell you you've landed on the wrong LZ!

And talk about exotic travel-when C-130s go somewhere, they GO somewhere (usually for 3 months, unfortunately). This gives you the opportunity to immerse yourself in the culture enough to give any local population a bad taste in their mouths, not something those strat-lift pilots can do from their airport hotel rooms!

As far as recommendations for your course of study, I offer these. Take a lot of math courses. You will need all the advanced math skills you can muster to facilitate the calculation of per diem rates around the world, and when trying to split up the crew's bar tab so that the co-pilot really believes he owes 85% of the whole thing.

Health sciences are important, too. You will need a thorough knowledge of biology to make those educated guesses of how much longer you can drink beer before the tremendous case of the shits catches up to you from that meal you ate at that place that had the belly dancers in some God-forsaken foreign country whose name you can't even pronounce!

Social studies are also beneficial. It is important for a good TAC Airlifter to have the cultural knowledge to be able to ascertain the exact location of the nearest titty bar in any country in the world, then be able to convince the local authorities to release the loadmaster after he offends every sensibility of the local religion and culture.

A foreign language is helpful, but not required. You will never be able to pronounce the names of the NAVAIDs in France, and it's much easier to ignore them and go where you want to anyway.

A study of geography is also paramount. You will need to know the basic location of all the places you've been when you get back from your TDY and are ready to stick those little pins in that huge world map you've got taped to you living room wall, right next to that gigantic wooden giraffe statue and beer stein collection.

Well, DJ, I hope this little note inspires you. And by the way, forget about that Academy thing. All TAC Airlifters know that there are waaay too few women and too little alcohol there to provide a well-balanced education.

A nice, big state college would be a much better choice.

Good luck and see you on the SKE scope!

Maj. Lowenfast

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Really?

I think I need to start looking for that one, would really like to get the .50 Beowolf upper for my bunny gun

guncrafterindustries.com

This has been on the internet for years. I doubt that it is true.

KC-135 and E-135 at Grissom - Life Support

E3A and EC-135K at Tinker - Life Support

F-16 at Tulsa ANG - Munitions IYAAYAS

KC-135 at Tinker AF Reserve - Supply - More mobags then aircraft parts

And of course C-130H's 78-0806 to 78-0813 at OKC ANG - Life Support and the ABCCC herks that were at Keesler.

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There is a company that makes a 1911 in 50 cal.

Are the headsets plugged into the comm. cords on the quick-don O2 masks? Those cords are not very sturdy.

Yes this has been discussed here many times on the old forum. I collected a bunch of info on the event and created a Yahoo group to hold what I have. Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/637789/

Did you ever here of the story of the Life Support guy that lost it on a night shift, and popped every parachute, every raft, and every life preserver in the shop? Or the F-4 jocks that flew under the London Bridge?

Trying to find the best way to ansewer your quistion, as a loadmaster I thought the reason for the other poistions was to get the loadmaster to and from where he worked. The pilots flew him (no girls back than) from one destanation to another to load or unload the plain. The nav was to make shure they didnt get lost and last but not least the eng. was to make shure the plane started when they were ready to go. of course my memory is fadind with time and I be getting this wrong. But I thought all 5 of the crew was pretty much needed at the time..........................

I got the same story from the ADAF recruiter about Boom Operators. Then again the same recruiter told me that Life Support could tell officers what to do. (He failed to mention being in a classroom environment)

I assume she is the engineer at home?

She is probably the Aircraft Commander.

In the 60s a crew chief took off by himself from a base in England. He managed to get it airborne and out over the channel but due to flying toward Russia his mission was interupted and he never returned....so I guess for a successful mission you would need a full crew of five unless you have a new J model than the minimum crew would be three....

One last question why in hell would you want to write a book that you have no knowledge of the subject matter? I bet it will not make the NY best seller list.

Muff

Is there another thread that mentions the crew chief that stole the C-130?

Welcome back, Dan and Welcome to Indiana! We're on wireless DSL where we live; the local (small) phone company puts an antenna on your house that is aimed at a reciever that is tied into the DSL (ours is aimed at an antenna on a feed mill); no problems or complaints so far, have had it almost a year. BTW if you brought your lawn tractor with you, you'll need to check out a new attachment......s-n-o-w-p-l-o-w.

It got so cold one winter at Grissom, the heat went off in the dorm, and the toilets froze over.

Welcome back. No longer a Florida redneck, now a Hoosier....

now a Hoosier redneck.

I was at Grissom when it was KC-135 hell.

Just wondering if anyone with C-130 time and a hearing loss ever been successful in making a claim to the VA.

As I approach 67, I have to admit my hearing isn't what it used to be. I had always heard the high frequency noise such as produced by the C-130 could lead to hearing loss. Today my barber, an infantry dude, was telling me how the VA paid $6,000 for two hearing aids for him. He said the VA hearing test revealed that his hearing loss was consistent with loud noise produced by mortar fire, arty fire, etc., that he experienced in his Vietnam service.

Was wondering if any of you C-130 guys have had any experience that you can pass on, good or bad, with the VA and hearing issues. Thanks!

Get a copy of your medical records. Then go see a claim representative from the VFW, American Legion, or DAV.

I am drawing 20%. !0% for tinnitus, from being around jet engines.

Military Services Prepare for change over to Hillary as Commander in Chief!

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I remember some time ago, Hillary was in Iraq. The Army helicopter crew assigned to haul her around had the callsign of: WITCH ONE

Sam, sometime around early "73, at least with the 316 TAW, we stopped using chutes drops and we had the restraint harness, which basically looked like a chute harness with an adjustable strap with a hook for the anchor cable.

Giz

I had a 1st shirt who had been a LM, until he hooked the harness strap to the pallet going out the back. The other load caught the error before the pallet slid out.