hithroel Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Hallo everybody, i am currently planning to build a fullsize cockpit replica for hobby flight simming based on MS Flightsim. There are tons of informations out there in the web about Boeings and Airbuses, but not too much about the Hercules. So I wonder if this forum could be the right source of information for me. There are so many questions without answers, although there are many pictures available in the web. Pics tell a story about the look , but not about the feel. So here is my first question: In the Gear/Landinglight module are on the right upper side two indicator lights? labeled Motor and two 3-position? switches labeled extend/hold/retract. I assume that this refers to the retractable landinglights in the main gear bay. How is the operation of that motors? What is the pupose of the hold position? Thanks + Regards Hithroel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Those are for the landing light on the wings. The hold position is really just the off position. It allows the light to be stopped in intermediate positions. If I remember correctly the switch should also be positioned to hold when the lights are fully extended or retracted to prevent unnecessary wear on the motor. [ATTACH]82[/ATTACH] The lights on the wheel well door are taxi lights and are fixed position lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithroel Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 Wow! 20 minutes later an I have answers to my questions! I think this forum will be my premier source of information for my sim! Thanks Casey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithroel Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 Are the indicator lights on during transition or in the fully extended position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaprad Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 They're not lights on 130's, but "barber poles" I'll try to find a pic for you, but it uses good ol' fashioned pictures instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I'm not sure what the gear indications ore on the J but looking at the image I doubt that barer poles and "up" are used. I'm sure one of the J guys will chime in soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkman Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 If you go to the web site of Captain Sim, you can download free, his flight manual I believe for the E and J model. If you do not do any good, come back and I will have a poke around else where. Regards Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaprad Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Found this on AF.mil, apparently J-birds have lights instead of poles. Ya learn something new everyday. As for the story, the guy proposed on the flight deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithroel Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 My question "Are the indicator lights on during transition or in the fully extended position?" was not clear - it refers to the lights over the motor switches. Are they lit during transition or in extended position of the landing lights? Do I interpret the pics right that the landing light switches are equipped with green LEDs? If yes, I suppose they are on as the landing lights are on. But there are additional questions concerning the gear-part in that module: How is the action of the gear lever? Just up an down or must the lever be pulled out prior the up/down-movement? What about the lock release button? Just a push button? (or with a light?) In which situations is the gear lever locked? Thanks in advance for your support - no picture can give me the answers you can give guys! This forum is great! This is what I looked for for a long time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaprad Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Not sure how much help I am on J's, but on other models there's a gate that you have to move to raise the gear. I'm assuming the J-model uses that red button labeled "Lock Release" to actuate the gear, I could be wrong. As for the lights, I seem to remember talking to a J-guy and he mentioned they blink in transit. Not sure how true that is or if it's been changed. I'll ask at work tomorrow and see if anyone knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ang012 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 That gate (guard) on H models and older is controled by the touch down switchs. When the wheels comes off the ground the gate flips away, when the gear is on the ground it comes back over the lever. It is a safe guard to help from putting the gear on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 The gear handle is just an up or down handle. The 3 indicator lights go red when the gear is in transit and full green when they are down and locked. The lock release button is used to override the Weight On Wheels (WOW) signal. The WOW energizes the gear handle solenoid when no weight on wheels is detected. The indicators on the landing light panel illuminate only if the lights are not fully retracted. Hopefully this helps, let me know if you have any more questions. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuech Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 The light is OUT when the gear is not down and locked and green when it is down and locked. Landing Gear Position Indicators. A left main gear position indicator, a nose gear position indicator, and a right main gear position indicator are located on the landing gear control panel. These indicators give a visual indication that the landing gear is down and locked regardless of the position of the gear handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Correction......the gear handle illuminates red while the gear is in transit, not the indicators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithroel Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Thanks a lot guys! So let me put together what I learned from you: - The indicator lights on the right side illuminate only if the lights are not fully retracted - the motor switch is a 3 position switch and moves the retractable landing lights Open question: Is it right that the landing light switches are equipped with green LEDs? Landing gear section: - The handle is just an up/down handle and is illuminated red when the gear is in transition - the indicators go green when the landing gear is down and locked. - the gear handle is locked when Weight On Wheels is detected and released when no weight on wheels is detected. - the lock release button is to override the wow-signal question: can anybody describe me a situation when wow is detected and I want to override that signal?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loadsmith Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 anytime that we do a Combat Offload I know for sure that the pilots will override the WOW. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithroel Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 Hi guys, nearly one year ago i asked some questions concerning the functions of the landing gear/lights module of an C130J and got great help from you guys! Thank you! Now the first built module is ready for assemby :-) Well, this is not lightspeed and with this kind of progress this project will accompany me in my retirement, but tha doesn't matter. Its fun an not profession. Thanks to all and I will post further questions if necessary! Greets from Bavaria The Progress will be documented at www.thomas-heinke.de Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yawdamper Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 very impressive. just keep in mind the J is a dark cockpit, meaning that if the pilot doesn't need to know about it there will not be a light illuminated. The landing light indicators are only on to let them know they need to retract them and there is no need to illuminate the gear handle or gear indicator lights if they're up and locked. This applies throught the cockpit lighting and instrumentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepemflying130 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Override for NLG retractions for maintenance. With only the NLG jacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarrett Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 anytime that we do a Combat Offload I know for sure that the pilots will override the WOW. Hope that helps. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Why? Because the WOW sensor inhibits the ramp/door switch at the forward loadmaster station on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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