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  1. First question is what year/model? Yes it matters if its a B-model verse a mid 80s H-model. Ground test valve commonly considered bad for transfers and to be honest it almost never is. Check the rigging to the ground test valve. It should be tighter on one cable verse the other so that the valve wants to pull to the closed position. The incorrect rigging of the cable is much more common than a valve itself. Check the brake shuttle valves. These can transfer aux to utility and utility to aux when brakes are used. They should not allow fluid to flow through them once they shift to other side of shuttle. A strange one that I have seen is one of the brake selector valves not receiving power to close so both valves were open and causing util/aux brake pressure to fight at the shuttle valves. Its easy to check. They are powered close so when energency is selected, you should have 28 vdc on normal selector and opposited when normal is selected. Nose landing gear uplock, NLG actuator and nose gear emergency selector valve can also cause this. Not too common but I have seen it. Do you have UARRSI, refuel pods or weapons systems? If so, all of those can be points of transfer. Emergency brake and normal brake accumulators should be checked for internal leakage as well. Most common of all is a person not fully depleting brake pressure on BOTH normal/emergency before moving the ground test. There is always some avionics or electrics guy that wants to help but doesnt know the details of running hydraulics. I have seen people chase this ghost and come to find out the new guy was improperly trained on tying ground test.
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  2. Hello fellow Herk lovers. It's been a long time since I last checked in. A few years in fact. Had some health problems to deal with and of course the day to day grind. I'm not real sure if this is the proper place for this "homecoming", but I'm sure it will get moved if need be. I scrolled around a bit before signing in and noticed a few names still left from the old days. I did not see MT Crewchief or gizzard, although over the past few years I have been in personal contact with both of them as well as lee Sills. I made the trip out to Montana several times and Ken and I have become good friends. Same thing with Paul, out East. He and his wife traveled to Wisconsin a couple years ago. Our two families have become close friends. Thanks to this forum !! I plan on spending time here, and getting caught up...
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  3. A man is dining in a fancy restaurant, and there is a gorgeous redhead sitting at the next table. He had been checking her out since he sat down, but lacked the nerve to talk with her. Suddenly she sneezes and her glass eye comes flying out of its socket towards the man. He reflexively reaches out, grabs it out of the air, and hands it back. "Oh my, I am so sorry," the woman says as she pops her eye back in place. "Let me buy you dessert to make it up to you." They enjoy a wonderful dessert together, and afterwards, the woman invites him to the theater followed by drinks. After paying for everything, she asks him if he would like to come to her place for a nightcap...and stay for breakfast the next morning. The next morning, she cooks a gourmet meal with all the trimmings. The guy is amazed! Everything has been incredible! "You know," he said, "you are the perfect woman. Are you this nice to every guy you meet?" "No," she replies... ... "You just happened to catch my eye
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  4. From 165th AW PA Today one of our very own C-130H3s returned after receiving the C-130H3.5 conversion package, this included the NP2000 eight bladed propellers and an upgraded engine compression section. These upgrades increase efficiency, aircraft performance, makes it safer, and reduces maintenance man-hours. The rest of our C-130 fleet will continue to transition to the new propellers over the next year.
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  5. An elderly couple were on a cruise and it was really stormy. They were standing on the back of the boat watching the storm, when a wave came up and washed the old man overboard. They searched for days and couldn't find him, so the captain sent the old woman back to shore with the promise that he would notify her as soon as they found something. Three weeks went by and finally the old woman got a fax from the boat. It read: 'Ma'am, sorry to inform you, we found your husband dead at the bottom of the ocean. We hauled him up to the deck and attached to his rear end was an oyster and in it was a pearl worth $50,000 Please advise.' The old woman faxed back: 'Send me the pearl and re-bait the trap.
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  6. Two C-130J transport aircraft of Bangladesh Air Force landed at Bangabandhu Air Force Base Bangabandhu, Kurmitola, Dhaka from China on Sunday (June 13) with 6 lakh doses of Sinopharm vaccine and syringes to prevent coronavirus. Also Read: Bangladesh and Austria held Foreign Office Consultations virtually on 8 June 2021 Two C-130J transport aircraft of Bangladesh Air Force return home from China with 6 lakh dose of coronavirus vaccineBangladesh Armed Forces are conducting various activities to prevent coronavirus following the policy published by the Government of Bangladesh under the direction of the Hon’ble Prime Minister. Following this, as a sign of China’s friendly relations with Bangladesh, the Air Force completed two C-130J transport aircraft with 8 lakh doses of Sinopharm vaccine and syringes from China to prevent coronavirus from returning to the country. It may be mentioned that on Saturday (June 12), 26 Air Crew of Bangladesh Air Force and a representative of the Armed Forces Department of China went to China to collect coronavirus vaccine from China to prevent coronavirus through two C-130J transport planes of Bangladesh Air ForceHazrat Shahjalal left Dhaka International Airport for the purpose. Wing Commander Md. Habibur Rahman, GD (P) and Wing Commander Sheikh Murtaza Ghalib, GD (P) served as the Mission Commanders of these two C-130J transport aircraft. Source: Two C-130J transport aircraft of Bangladesh Air Force return home from China with 6 lakh dose of coronavirus vaccine - The Policy Times
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  7. I well remember my days up in the nose wheel well of C-130s on the frozen, wind blown flight line at Elmendorf replacing APN-59 RTs and antennae alone, freezing to death and breaking my back without any help. That system was at least half our workload there which included ALL avionics systems, as we were severely undermanned and expected to fix it ALL right after we transitioned from AAC to MAC. As they told me right after I got there from Moody AFB in December 1979, “You’re no longer a comm/nav troop. You’re an avionics troop”.
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  8. Pulled and tested all brake shuttle valves. One was leaking pretty bad from emergency to normal. Hoping that was it! thanks for the help guys.
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  9. A frustrated housewife bought a new pair of crotchless panties in an attempt to arouse her husband... and spice up their dead sex life. After cooking his favorite meal for dinner one evening... she had put them on under a revealing short skirt... and relaxed with a glass of wine on the sofa directly across from where her husband was sitting in his chair. After several more glasses of wine... and at what she thought was the appropriate moment... she uncrossed her legs just wide enough so that her husband could catch a revealing view. It wasn’t long before his eyes focused on the prize... and he asked... “Are you wearing crotchless panties?” “Y -e-s”... she answered coyly with a seductive smile.” “Thank God!” ... he said... “I thought you were sitting on the cat.”
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  10. Right? Everyones “copy paste share” status will die with me. Please put this as your status if you know someone who has been eaten by dragons. Dragons are nearly unstoppable and, in case you didn't know, they can breathe fire. 93% of people won't copy and paste this, because they have been eaten by dragons. The other 7% of people are sitting in the shower armed with fire extinguishers and will (hopefully) put this as their status.
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  11. Excellent JPG Picture of GEN DISC SYSTEM SCHEMATIC Besr Regards Munir Abbasu
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  12. “Some predict that the C-130 will continue to operate well into the 21st century…”
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  13. The truth about Vaseline… A man doing market research for the Vaseline Company knocked at the door and was greeted by a young woman with three small children running around at her feet. “I’m doing some research for Vaseline. Have you ever used the product?” She said, “Yes. My husband and I use it all the time.” “If you don’t mind my asking,” he said, “what do you use it for?” “We use it for sex,” she said. The researcher was a little taken aback. “Usually people lie to me and say they use it on a child’s bicycle chain or to help with a gate hinge. But, in fact, I know that most people do use it for sex. I admire you for your honesty. Since you’ve been so frank so far, can you tell me exactly HOW you use it for sex?” The woman said, “I don’t mind telling you at all. My husband and I put it on the doorknob and it keeps the kids out.”
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  14. It was mailman George's last day on the job after 35 years of delivering the mail through all kinds of weather. When he arrived at the first house on his route, the whole family came out, roundly congratulated him, and sent him on his way with a tidy gift envelope. At the second house they presented him with a box of fine cigars. The folks at the third house handed him a selection of terrific fishing lures. At the next house, he was met at the door by a strikingly beautiful woman in a revealing negligee. She took him by the hand, and led him up the stairs to the bedroom where she blew his mind with the most passionate love he had ever experienced. When he'd had enough, they went downstairs, where she fixed him a giant breakfast: eggs, potatoes, ham, sausage, blueberry waffles and fresh-squeezed orange juice. When he was truly satisfied, she poured him a cup of steaming coffee. As she was pouring, he noticed a dollar bill sticking out from under the cup's bottom edge. "All this is just too wonderful for words," he said, "but what's the dollar for?" "Well," she said, "last night, I told my husband that today would be your last day, and that I wanted to do something special for you. I asked him what to give you. He said, 'Screw him. Give him a dollar.'" "Breakfast was my idea."
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  15. These aren't Murphy's Laws but some of them should be: "The Law of Volunteering"--If you dance with a grizzly bear, you had better let him lead. "The Law of Avoiding Oversell"--When putting cheese in a mousetrap, always leave room for the mouse. "The Law of Common Sense" --Never accept a drink from a urologist. "The Law of Reality" --Never get into fights with ugly people, they have nothing to lose. "The Law of Self Sacrifice" --When you starve with a tiger, the tiger starves last. "The Law of Motivation" --Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster. "Dick's Law" --You always find something in the last place you look. "Weiler's Law" --Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself. "Law of Probable Dispersal" --Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. "Law of Volunteer Labor" --People are always available for work in the past tense. "Conway's Law" --In any organization there is one person who knows what is going on. That person must be fired. "Iron Law of Distribution" --Them that has, gets. "Law of Cybernetic Entomology" --There is always one more bug. "Law of Drunkenness" --You can't fall off the floor. "Peter's Law" --The first myth of management is that it exists. "Osborne's Law" --Variables won't; constants aren't. "Main's Law" --For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. "Weinberg's Second Law" --If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would have destroyed civilization.
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  16. I was in the six item express lane at the store quietly fuming. Completely ignoring the sign, the woman ahead of me had slipped into the check-out line pushing a cart piled high with groceries. Imagine my delight when the cashier beckoned the woman to come forward looked into the cart and asked sweetly, "So which six items would you like to buy?"
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  17. Hey Chris, it's good to see you back on the forum. I kind of slowed down, but I am starting to miss you guys so am on here more often. I realize I am way behind on our "picture war", and I will be getting back in touch soon via e-mail or phone call. So, be expecting an e-mail soon loaded with pictures! By the way, I wished everybody a happy new year on the 31st of Dec. Anyway, old buddy good to see you here, Ken PS Up by Woodbine
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  18. Thank u for your invaluable contribution. The fault was traced to a broken clamp on exhaust duct of the APU which allows the exhaust gas fall directly on the sensor loop around it. A new exhaust duct was installed, system tested and found OK. Thanks, I will check for that and revert. Grateful
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  19. Its good to know what others are doing as it might pave a way for our modifications as well!
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  20. The 1c-130A-6 references you to the 11A18-14-7
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  21. THE SENILITY PRAYER : Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
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  22. An investment counselor decided to go out on her own. She was shrewd and diligent, so business kept coming in, and pretty soon she realized that she needed an in-house counsel. She began to interview young lawyers. "As I'm sure you can understand," she started off with one of the first applicants, "in a business like this, our personal integrity must be beyond question." She leaned forward. "Mr. Peterson, are you an honest lawyer?" "Honest?" replied the job prospect. "Let me tell you something about honest. Why, I'm so honest that my father lent me $15,000 for my education, and I paid back every penny the minute I tried my very first case." "Impressive. And what sort of case was that?" The lawyer squirmed in his seat and admitted, "He sued me for the money."
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  23. Filling the accumulator doesn't honestly do much to prevent an air bubble. It's the removing of the hydraulic line to the accumulator that create the issue No matter how fast you are in getting it capped, you will induce a large volume of air into the lines. I was a hydraulic tech on C-130E/H/J for 13 years. When you think you have the system bled enough, do another 10 cycles.
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  24. The suction boost pumps located near the reservoirs are used to provide a positive hydraulic pressure of 70-l 10 PSI to the suction side of each engine driven pump when turned on. This pressure prevents cavitation and helps to “prime” an engine driven pump should air get into the suction line. If the reservoir fluid level is kept within limits and correct maintenance procedures are followed, air will not enter the system. When a hydraulic component is replaced, the cavities of the new unit should be filled with system fluid (MI L-H-5606) just before installation to minimize entrapment of air. This is especially true when replacing engine driven pumps, Always fill the pump case to overflowing through the case drain port. Also, retain as much fluid as possible in disconnected tubing during component changes. Become familiar with all the instructions in your maintenance manuals to avoid extra expense - and work. Munir Abbasi Home of Hercules Pakistan
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  25. Lots of things are possible. I mainly said to check the suction boost pump because you said the light came on. Usually engine pumps will just cause low pressure overall and maybe a low pressure light for that engine driven pump but the suction boost pump light coming on says the supply to both engine pumps was low. It could have been something as simple as an air bubble making its way through the system when the gear operated. Keep an eye out for having to service air side of accumulators often. If the air charge depletes often, it could be depleting into the hydraulic side and creating air pockets in the system. Were there any hydraulic compnent changes or hydraulic maintenance that happened before this flight? Have you bench checked the engine driven pumps?
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  26. I was also involved in this evacuation! My father (Ray Harris), worked as an Instructor at the Military School in MIS. He'd worked in Iran for 2 years and I visited twice during school holidays. It was during my second visit, arriving in December 1978, that the situation suddenly became awkward and hostile. We were moved from our accommodation to a more secure compound with many other families, but unfortunately, I cannot remember what this area was called. Everyone was frantically selling cars, motorbikes, furniture etc. etc. to local people where possible and also trying to decide what they could feasibly travel with in the event of our possible evacuation. We were only given 24 hours notice that we would be evacuated by the RAF, due to security reasons. As a 16 year old, it was all very exciting!! I've visited Iran since (in 2011) but unfortunately I didn't get a chance to return to this region but would love to revisit MIS one day.
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  27. It was originally supposed to be a replacement program for MC-130H losses Project Dragon Spear started in 2009 and it went full blown blank check at that point They were releasing weapons as MC-130W. First W kill was as a MC-130W. All MC-130W changed to AC-130W MDS in 2012.
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  28. Kindling Attached file Best regards Munir Abbasi Formation Light.docx
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  29. John Allen sent me these pictures of 55-0005 and 56-0469. They were Blind Bat aircraft. The pictures appear to be taken at Naha and Ubon 1969-70.
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  30. I was in the 41 TAS from June 67-Dec 68. We had balls acft in our squadron. The one I remember was 009! I was a crew chief and flew on a lot of them. They were all "A" models.
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  31. DISCLOSURE NOTICE - This information is furnished upon the condition that it will not be released to another nation without the specific authority of the Department of the Air Force of the United States, that it will be used for military purposes only, that individual or corporate rights originating in the information, whether patented or not, will be respected, that the recipient will report promptly to the United States, any known or suspected compromise, and that the information will be provided substantially the same degree of security afforded it by the Department of Defense of the United States. Also, regardless of any other markings on the document, it will not be downgraded or declassified without written approval of the originating United States agency. DISTRIBUTION STATEMENT C - Distribution authorized to U.S. Government agencies and their contractors (Administrative or Operational Use) (24 November 1998). Other requests for this document shall be referred to 580 ACSG/GFEAH, Robins AFB, GA 31098. WARNING - This document contains technical data whose export is restricted by the Arms Export Control Act (Title 22, U.S.C., Sec 2751, et seq.) or the Export Administration Act of 1979, as amended, Title 50, U.S.C., App. 2401 et seq. Violations of these export laws are subject to severe criminal penalties. Disseminate in accordance with provisions of DoD Directive 5230.25.
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  32. The doctor said, 'Joe, the good news is I can cure your headaches. The bad news is that it will require castration. You have a very rare condition, which causes your testicles to press on your spine and the pressure creates one hell of a headache. The only way to relieve the pressure is to remove the testicles.' Joe was shocked and depressed. He wondered if he had anything to live for. He had no choice but to go under the knife. When he left the hospital, he was without a headache for the first time in 20 years, but he felt like he was missing an important part of himself. As he walked down the street, he realized that he felt like a different person. He could make a new beginning and live a new life. He saw a men's clothing store and thought, 'That's what I need.. A new suit. He entered the shop and told the salesman, 'I'd like a new suit.' The elderly tailor eyed him briefly and said, 'Let's see... size 44 long.' Joe laughed, 'That's right, how did you know?' 'Been in the business 60 years!' the tailor said. Joe tried on the suit it fit perfectly. As Joe admired himself in the mirror, the salesman asked, 'How about a new shirt?' Joe thought for a moment and then said, 'Sure.' The salesman eyed Joe and said, 'Let's see, 34 sleeves and 16-1/2 neck..' Joe was surprised, 'That's right, how did you know?' Been in the business 60 years.' Joe tried on the shirt and it fit perfectly. Joe walked comfortably around the shop and the salesman asked, 'How about some new underwear?' Joe thought for a moment and said, 'Sure.' The salesman said, 'Let's see... size 36. Joe laughed, 'Ah ha! I got you! I've worn a size 34 since I was 18 years old. The salesman shook his head, 'You can't wear a size 34. A size 34 would press your testicles up against the base of your spine and give you one hell of a headache.'.....
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  33. Useful Military Warnings: "Aim towards the Enemy." - Instruction printed on U.S. Rocket Launcher "When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend." - U.S. Army "Cluster bombing from B-52s is very, very accurate. The bombs are guaranteed to always hit the ground." - U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop "If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal "A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you least expect it. That would make you quite unpopular in what's left of your unit." - Army's magazine of preventive maintenance "It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed." - U.S. Air Force Manual "Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo." - Infantry Journal "Tracers work both ways." - U.S. Army Ordnance "Five-second fuses only last three seconds." - Infantry Journal "Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid." - Col. David Hackworth "If your attack is going too well, you're probably walking into an ambush." - Infantry Journal "No combat-ready unit has ever passed inspection." - Joe Gay "Any ship can be a minesweeper ... once." - Anonymous "Never tell the Platoon Sergeant you have nothing to do." - Unknown Army Recruit "Don't draw fire; it irritates the people around you." - Your Buddies (And lastly) "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." - U.S. Ammo Troop
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  34. Mr. Smith goes to the doctor's office to collect his wife's test results. The lab tech says to him, "I'm sorry, sir, but there has been a bit of a mix-up and we have a problem. When we sent the samples from your wife to the lab, the samples from another Mrs. Smith were sent as well and we are now uncertain which one is your wife's. Frankly, that's either bad or terrible." "What do you mean?" "Well, one Mrs. Smith has tested positive for Alzheimer's disease and the other for AIDS. We can't tell which is your wife." "That's terrible! Can we do the test over?" asked Mr. Smith. "Normally, yes. But you have an HMO, and they won't pay for these expensive tests more than once." "Well, what am I supposed to do now?" "The HMO recommends that you drop your wife off in the middle of town. If she finds her way home, don't sleep with her."
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  35. A photographer, who was also a confirmed atheist, decided to go into the woods to get photos of the fall foliage. It was a beautiful day....fall colors, birds chirping, babbling brook, and a gentle breeze rustling the leaves. While snapping shots, the atheist heard a noise behind him, and whirled around to see a huge bear coming through the bushes. He dropped his camera and ran. And kept running....... and looking behind him, he noticed the bear was gaining on him. He was so scared that tears came to his eyes. He ran faster, but the bear was closing in on him. He ran faster yet, and tripped over a root. Rolling over onto his back, the atheist saw the bear rise to his full height and raise a huge paw...... and the atheist cried out, "Oh, God, no!" And everything stopped. The birds stopped chirping. The brook stopped babbling. The gentle breeze stopped. And the bear froze with his paw in the air. And the atheist heard a booming voice say, "Young man. For years you doubted my very existence, but now that your life is in peril you call my name to help you. Why should I do so?" And the atheist thought for a moment, and said, "Yes, you are right. If you are God, then it would be hypocritical of me to become a Christian at this point in my life. But, do you think that you could at least make the bear a Christian for today?" And the booming voice was quiet for a moment and then said, "Done." And everything started again. The birds chirping, brook babbling, and gentle breeze rustling the leaves. And the bear slowly lowered his paw. And the bear put his paws together, and bowed his massive head and said, "Dear Lord, please bless this food we are about to eat."
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  36. I remember one C-130E Acft I crew'ed before I joined E-Flight . I was with the 345th and assigned to 62-1804
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  37. For what it’s worth! Remembering a flight out of Ubon with my friend Melvin. Making_the_Pathway_Bright.docx
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  38. I got these from my friend Mel Copeland:
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  39. C-130E 69-6578 c/n 4353. Critique/feedback is appreciated. Get a closer look in our print viewer Prints may be purchased in our C-130 Print Shop
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  40. I kind of think the three bladed props were faster on the probably lighter A Model . But noisier for sure! I did quite a few Assault Landings & Take Offs on the A-model and 40 approx. 8 hr. Blind Bat missions, so I could tell the difference when cruising around in the Cadillac (E Model). I only was on my E Model for a few Assault landings etc. and they were just as fun as my A-model. I remember while at Naha, you could always tell when an E Model was on the ground being quieter and especially with Low Speed Ground Idle. You know, I have forgotten all of the not so fun times over there, but I don't think I have forgotten a minute of the good times. I wonder if it is the same these days? Ken Left to right ---Me . Paul, & Chris somewhere over Laos-------1968
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  41. One Sunday, in counting the money in the weekly offering, the Pastor of a small church found a pink envelope containing $1,000. It happened again the next week! The following Sunday, he watched as the offering was collected and saw an elderly woman put the distinctive pink envelope on the plate. This went on for weeks until the pastor, overcome by curiosity, approached her. "Ma'am, I couldn't help but notice that you put $1,000 a week in the collection plate," he stated. "Why yes," she replied, "every week my son sends me money and I give some of it to the church." The pastor replied, "That's wonderful. But $1000 is a lot, are you sure you can afford this? How much does he send you?" The elderly woman answered, "$10,000 a week." The pastor was amazed. "Your son is very successful; what does he do for a living?" "He is a veterinarian," she answered. "That's an honorable profession, but I had no idea they made that much money," the pastor said. "Where does he practice?" The woman answered proudly, "In Nevada .. He has two cat houses, one in Las Vegas, and one in Reno"
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  42. Actually, some commercial Hercs have paratroop doors. I was an FE on a brand new one in 1991 in Angola. They're called "aft entry doors." Don R.
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  43. Excel file I made some time ago, performance accurate to about 0.2% most of the time. Perf PPC v2.1.xlsx
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  44. Once you have a taste of the old C-130...nothing else will satisfy. Proven time and time again! Bill
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  45. Hi C-130 Technical Forum, Can anyone tell me the T.O./Publication Number for a Gull Airborne Fuel Quantity Indicator (INBD Wing Tank) Part No:200-037-003 (LAC: 695797-53)? This Indicator is very similar to a Honeywell JG402A53 FQI, but unfortunately I am having trouble locating any Technical Information that relates to this Gull Airborne Indicator. Many Thanks Deputy Dog
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  46. Can anyone tell me the full tail numbers for the following CCK birds? If so, I can tell you some places they went. Regards, Alan Tail # 000 500 742 777 786 794 796 797 802 811 812 813 817 819 834 835 840 841 842 844 848 852 855 859 863 864 865
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  47. I remember an AWADs crew being told to go home by a Army 2 star onboard ABCCC while enroute to Grenada. Seems they couldn't or wouldn't do a visual drop on Point Salinas airfield. The SATCOM discussion between the ABCCC and the AWADs bird was almost funny to listen to. I really felt sorry for that poor army ranger with the SATCOM radio on that AWADs bird. The conversation went something like this. ABCCC to AWADs bird -- Inform your pilots to drop the dozer 1/3 of the way down the runway on the left side and make sure the package doesn't land on the runway -- over. Replay -- the crew request lat/longs for the drop. Answer -- just tell the crew to visually fly down the runway and drop on the left side and visually drop the dozer so it doesn't land on the runway. Answer -- the pilot says he needs lat/longs or he can not drop. Replay -- son do you know who I am? Answer -- Yes Sir, Gen Stenier. Replay -- that's right son now you tell your pilots to visually fly down that runway and drop 1/3 of the way down and make sure they are far enough left so the dozer will not land on the runway -- copy? Answer -- Yes Sir.......... a few seconds later Sir my pilots say they need lat/longs to drop. Replay -- Son you tell you DAMN PILOTS to go home! Answer -- Yes Sir.
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