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Hmmm.... Four crewmembers armed and none are the drivers. Could a hell of a trip if all 6 got to \"that time of the month\" at the same time. Good thing that it wasn\'t a gunship, cause watch out on the ground.... Another aviation term gone awry. Gives a whole new meaning to the term cockpit. :silly:

On Yahoo News WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon has proposed selling to Iraq six Lockheed Martin Corp (LMT.N) C-130J cargo aircraft and related equipment and services valued at up to $1.5 billion. Along with the six \"Super Hercules\" aircraft, the Iraqi government has requested 24 engines built by Rolls-Royce Group Plc (RR.L), the Pentagon\'s Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a notice to Congress dated on Friday and made public Monday. The Iraqi Air Force plans to use the C-130J to support its troops and for humanitarian relief operations, the congressional notification said. The estimated cost is $1.5 billion, the notice said. \"Purchase of new transport aircraft will provide Iraq with the ability to operate seamlessly with U.S., NATO and coalition forces engaged in all types of operations and missions,\" it said. In a separate statement, the Pentagon notified Congress of a possible sale to Iraq of armored security vehicles valued at up to $206 million if all options are exercised. The contractors for this sale had not yet been determined, it said. Such notifications of potential government-to-government arms sales are required by law. They do not mean a sale has been concluded.

The pastor asked if anyone in the congregation would like to express Praise for answered prayers. A lady stood and walked to the podium. She said, \'I have a Praise.\' Two months ago, my husband, Jim, had a terrible bicycle wreck and his scrotum was completely crushed. The pain was excruciating and the doctors didn\'t know if they could help him.\' You could hear an audible gasp from the men in the congregation as they imagined the pain that poor Jim experienced. She continued, \'Jim was unable to hold me or the children and every move caused him terrible pain. We prayed as the doctors performed a delicate operation . They were able to piece together the crushed remnants of Jim\'s scrotum and wrap wire around it to hold it in place.\' Again, the men in the Congregation squirmed uncomfortably as they imagined the horrible surgery performed on Jim. She continued, \'Now, Jim is out of the hospital and the doctor\'s say, with time, his scrotum should recover completely.\' All the men sighed with relief. The pastor rose and tentatively asked if any one else had anything to say. A man rose and walked slowly to the podium. He said, \'I\'m Jim and I want to tell my wife, the word is sternum.\'

The closing paragraph is classic ................ President Truman When President Truman retired from office in 1952, his income was substantially a U.S. Army pension reported to have been $13,507.72 a year. Congress, noting that he was paying for his stamps and personally licking them, granted him an \'allowance\' and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year. When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating, \'You don\'t want me. You want the office of the president, and that doesn\'t belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it\'s not for sale..\' Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing, \'I don\'t consider that I have done anything which should be the reason for any award, Congressional or otherwise.\' Today, some Presidents and many in Congress have found a way to become quite wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices. Political offices are now for sale. Good old Harry Truman one time observed: \'My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there\'s hardly any difference.\'

WISDOM - FROM THE MILITARY MANUAL ------------ --------- --------- --------- ------ \'If the enemy is in range, so are you.\' - Infantry Journal ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed..\' - U.S. Air Force Manual ----------- --------- --------- --------- \'Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons.\' - General MacArthur ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'You, you, and you ... Panic. The rest of you, come with me.\' - U.S. Marine Corp Gunnery Sgt. ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- \'Tracers work both ways.\' - U.S. Army Ordnance ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'Five second fuses only last three seconds.\' - Infantry Journal ----------- - --- ------ --------- --------- \'Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once.\' ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'Never tell the Platoon Sergeant you have nothing to do.\' - Unknown Marine Recruit ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- \'If you see a bomb technician running, keep up with him.\' - USAF Ammo Troop ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'Though I Fly Through the Valley of Death , I Shall Fear No Evil. For I am at 80,000 Feet and Climbing.\' ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'You\'ve never been lost until you\'ve been lost at Mach 3.\' - Paul F. Crickmore (test pilot) ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'The only time you have too much fuel is when you\'re on fire.\' ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it\'s probably a helicopter -- and therefore, unsafe.\' ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane you always have Enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash.\' ------------ --------- ------- -- --------- \'Even with ammunition, the USAF is just another expensive flying club..\' ----------- --------- --------- --------- \'What is the similarity between air traffic controllers and pilots? If a pilot screws up, the pilot dies; If ATC screws up, .... The pilot dies.\' ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- \'Never trade luck for skill.\' ------------ --------- --------- --------- The three most common expressions (or famous last words), in aviation are: \'Why is it doing that?\' \'Where are we?\' And \'Oh S...!\' ----------- --------- --------- --------- \'Airspeed, altitude and brains. Two are always needed to successfully complete the flight.\' ------------ --------- --------- --------- - \'Mankind has a perfect record in aviation; We never left one up there!\' ----------- --------- --------- --------- \'Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding Or doing anything about it.\' ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'The Piper Cub is the safest airplane in the world; it can just barely kill you.\' - Attributed to Max Stanley (Northrop test pilot) ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime.\' Sign over squadron ops desk at Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ, 1970 ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'If something hasn\'t broken on your helicopter, it\'s about to.\' ------------ --------- --------- --------- \'You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal.\' ------------ --------- --------- --------- As the test pilot climbs out of the experimental aircraft, having torn off the wings and tail in the crash landing, the crash truck arrives; the rescuer sees a bloodied pilot and asks, \'What happened?\' The pilot\'s reply: \'I don\'t know, I just got here myself!\' - Attributed to Ray Crandell (Lockheed test pilot)

Seem to recall from my long ago (late 60s - early 70s) maintenance days that when planes are not flying, sitting around for long periods of time, that they were supposed to be towed around to keep the tires from flat spotting, etc.

Always thought that these babies would make a great infantry dispersal bomb. Hell with the cluster bombs. Couple of these babies and poof no more enemy infantry. Or houses. Or IED, maybe... B)

I agree that he was a pretty damn good pilot. He was the 17th stan eval boss when he got the word about school during the \'85 Christmas Party. They surprised him with the notice of getting the school slot, and then it was an \"oh by the way it\'s at Ft. Levenworth.\" I thought that he was going to s*** bricks. Never forget the poster that he had in his office. Now a days it would be considered sexual harassment or worse.

I wonder if that is the same Capt, err, Maj Steve Sullivan I flew with at EDF. One weekend trip to Hickam with a butter bar Co-pilot was priceless, especially the look on Co\'s face when we bought him a lap dance in one of the downtown Honolulu bars..... Getting married settled him down some, and when he was assigned to go to Command College (is that right, too many years to remember) he wasn\'t too pleased, but he was a lot more dis-pleased when he found out that the school was at Ft. Levenworth.

Flying new planes does have some nice perks. Flew 73 H models in 75 at LRF. Even the seat cushions still had some \"cushion\" in them.

Hated the underfloor heat fan on pre-72\'s (I think it was). So damn loud when I had to go in back.

You have to forgive an old brain from over 30 years ago but one of my 1st overwater flights I had a similar event happening. The underfloor heat was cycling. Can\'t remember the actual fix though. Maybe one of these smart maintainers came give you a clue to the actual unit.

Came across this pic and it sure seems like a short runway. Don\'t want to land short or takeoff long. Not even sure where it\'s located. [img size=150] [img size=600]http://herkybirds.com/images/fbfiles/images/Short_runway_.jpg

Not having been on the Herk in 20 years, and never on a commercial Herk, did\'t the civilians and other countires get a -1 of sorts when they bought a bird?

I don\'t have my flight manuals or my copies of the Lockheed tech books anymore. So I\'m not sure where it was written, but i\'m sure it was addressed somewhere as to the why, etc.

Forgive the old 25 year-out-of-date brain, but I seem to recall that the gear is not actually \"chained down\" but it is \"chained in\", to keep it from spreading.

Jeeeez, enough of this B.S. If some Alpha Hotel wants to bitch about his/her pic then delete the SOB and cancel the persons membership here. We\'ve all gotten pics through emails, etc., and if the pic doesn\'t having \"property of\" on it, no one is ever going to research it to find out who took the pic before we pass it on to someone else. This is a site dedicated to the Herc. We\'re just here to share experiences, technical know-how, and pictures we\'ve accumulated over the years. And if your ego can\'t stand having a pic on this site with out seeing your name on it, then my vote is delete the frigging pic, and you take advantage of one of the U.S.\'s biggest freedoms, the right to choose, and choose to leave this site. This way out ----->

This really is getting old with this guy. Is his name \"Loren\" by any chance? Guys just take the guy\'s pic down and then we can get over the pissing and moaning. Seems he only joined the board to bitch about HIS pic. He\'s sure not a Herc guy. If he is I\'d be really surprised. Herc people seem to have a lot more common sense that this guy does. As far as credit for pics, if someone claims that a pic is theirs and wants credit then add their name. With the internet, there is no way to find out just whose pic is whose, and whose ego is going to get bruised by not giving credit for any particular pic. As far as credit goes, the pic on my profile is of me on the ground at Cherry Point, taken by my load using my camera during a trip from LRF to Cherry Point to pick up some marines and take them to PR. Now then who gets the credit for the pic? Me, the load, the camera maker, USAF, 314 TAW, USMC, Lockheed, Goodyear (it\'s their tire in the pic), and on and on..... :blink:

Best I can say is that if you\'ve got such a burr up your butt about the pic and the credit then maybe we should just get rid of it. Bob, maybe in the biggest, boldest letters you can maybe you ought to put this guys name on the pic. Alot of us have posted \"Our\" pics on this site or the C-130 HQ site. But I don\'t ever recall anyone crying about not getting credit for any of the pics.

Not sure that this is related but years ago before my Herc time, \'72 or so, I worked the RAM team out of Kelly AFB. We, me and 2 structural guys, went to Laughlin AFB to rebuild a T-38 that had handgrenaded an engine on TO and totally filled the back of the bird with holes. The AR struct guys had the job of patching the holes, I had to rebuild the aircraft systems and flight controls from the \"firewall\" back. We had to replace the vertical stab with one from a bone-yard bird. On FCF the bird had a similar flight characteristic, left yaw. They did a lot of checks, full symmetry check, etc., etc. Eventually it came down to the fuel vent on the trailing edge of the vertical stab was bent to the left a few degrees, giving the bird the left yaw. Once that was fixed the bird flew straight. Anyone check out any kind of protrusions on the left side/wing? Hope this helps.

betcha it\'s a B-47.

Guess it\'s good thing that the Nav ran them out of gas so they could use the wing tanks as LPUs! At least that was what we were told way back then.

For anyone who\'s a NASCAR fan this is a decent story of a driver\'s trip to the middle east. Plus a pretty nice Herc pic. http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AvUPa_oNbY2B61fox.i5OKDov7YF?slug=rc-afghanistan032308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Spent a tour with the 6594th. Nice assignment. We had 7 JC-B\'s and 3 JHC-H\'s for recovery, if memory serves, and 3 HC-P\'s to re-fuel the choppers for down-range missions. There\'s a message somewhere in the forums that shows all the birds.

In 10 years of flying I\'ve only had 2 instances of engine fire lights. First, 1976, we were doing an engine run for maintenance at LRF. Can\'t remember exactly why a flight crew was needed or what it was for but we did the high power engine run on alpha row (?). Engine run crew was pretty much all new guys who got the run crew job. Doing the engine run got the engine fire light on the engine, AC decided to follow the book and we follow the bold face procedure including firing the bottle. Guess being newbies we just followed the book without much pre-thought. Maintenance was pissed about the bottle but at least we followed the procedure. Second time was in \'85 or so flying out of EDF one early morning on the way to Kotzebue. Just at sunrise #2 starting giving us what initially looked like a throttle cable failure, low fuel flow, TIT, and torque, etc. TD system and it seemed ok. Before shutting it down asked the AC to slowly turn right to get the engine into the sun. When the sun hit the nacelle saw the inboard cowling covered with fuel and streaming off the engine and over the wing. Caged the engine, followed emergency procedures, got clearance to turn around and head home. Everything fine until we touched down. Fire light came on and we fired the bottle on rollout. Afterwards didn\'t see any sign of fire but we didn\'t take the chance that it was an indication problem. Could have been a lot of fuel in the cowling and the airflow change may have allowed something to ignite. Never found out what caused the fire light but the fuel leak was caused by cracked fuel line going into the burner can. So fired a couple of bottles in my day but always erred on the side of caution.