munirabbasi Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Hello World Expertise PL Hing window inoperative (Electric Heating) of L-100 Hercules bat bird. Can bird fly at its normal altitude.Please describe limitation of NESA swing window and Difference of Military version and civil version hing window Munir Abbasi Home of hercules Pakistan Edited December 10, 2018 by munirabbasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmer Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Plz check service news for NESA windows. Tnx regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehe Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Typically NESA windows can be flown when in-op but it limits the pilots because they must avoid icing conditions. This would be a judgement call by YOUR aircrew members. Every Air Force or operator is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munirabbasi Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, hehe said: Typically NESA windows can be flown when in-op but it limits the pilots because they must avoid icing conditions. This would be a judgement call by YOUR aircrew members. Every Air Force or operator is different. Can we remove Electric connections of inoperative Swing Window? Munir Abbasi Edited December 11, 2018 by munirabbasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmer Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) INOPERATIVE WINDSHIELD ANTI−ICING Operation with inoperative windshield anti−icing is permissible provided. 1. The airplane is not flown in known icing. 2. The maximum speed limit below 10,000 feet is 185 KIAS due to possible bird strikes. Descent from high altitude into warm moist air with an inoperative nesa windshield anti−icing system will cause fogging and possible icing of the windshield. To minimize this, increase cabin air temperature and open the pilot’s and copilot’s windshield defogging valves. It is recommended that a gradual descent be made to allow the windshield, which has been cold−soaked at altitude, to warm with ambient cabin air. Edited December 11, 2018 by Ahmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehe Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 11 hours ago, munirabbasi said: Can we remove Electric connections of inoperative Swing Window? Munir Abbasi Is the window arcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munirabbasi Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, hehe said: Is the window arcing? No Munir Abbasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 23 hours ago, munirabbasi said: Hello World Expertise .Please describe limitation of NESA swing window and Difference of Military version and civil version hing window Munir Abbasi Home of hercules Pakistan To get FAA certification, it was required that the civil version had to have 3 positive locking devices on each swing window, whereas the military version has just one locking device. The NESA systems are identical. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munirabbasi Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, DC10FE said: To get FAA certification, it was required that the civil version had to have 3 positive locking devices on each swing window, whereas the military version has just one locking device. The NESA systems are identical. Don R. Thanks Munir Abbasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATOPS1 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 You do not need to remove the wire from the window in fact you should turn off the NESA because if one window is inoperative it can cause the remaining operative windows to over heat. This information should be in your operators manual in the normal procedures section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munirabbasi Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 9 hours ago, NATOPS1 said: You do not need to remove the wire from the window in fact you should turn off the NESA because if one window is inoperative it can cause the remaining operative windows to over heat. This information should be in your operators manual in the normal procedures section. Thanks Munir Abbasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munirabbasi Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 8:43 PM, NATOPS1 said: You do not need to remove the wire from the window in fact you should turn off the NESA because if one window is inoperative it can cause the remaining operative windows to over heat. This information should be in your operators manual in the normal procedures section. Can we replace the swing window of civil version with military version Munir abbasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATOPS1 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 9:56 AM, munirabbasi said: Can we replace the swing window of civil version with military version Munir abbasi I have no answer for you. You need to check part numbers and contact a field rep for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munirabbasi Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 5 hours ago, NATOPS1 said: I have no answer for you. You need to check part numbers and contact a field rep for that. Thanks Munir Abbasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 10:56 AM, munirabbasi said: Can we replace the swing window of civil version with military version Munir abbasi You might be able to if the locking mechanism on the military version window lines up with the commercial version locking device on the window frame. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munirabbasi Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 12/15/2018 at 7:35 PM, DC10FE said: You might be able to if the locking mechanism on the military version window lines up with the commercial version locking device on the window frame. Don R. Thanks Munir Abbasi Home of hercules Pakistan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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