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I'm in for this, what about the rest of you?????? Just one thought, be facin' west when you do it, symbolizing his final " West departure."""

You know, after all the posts on Dan's passing, it seems he hs left quite a legacy.....Few people do, but obviously he touched many. I hope his family membesr get to read all this, they would be so deservedly proud. Somebody once said, in a different context, that the death of one diminished us all, and it is very true in this case..............

ATTA boy, Pat, way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell does a doctor know??? Ever notice how many of their patients die????

Sparks, you better be there at Dayton. Remember to bring your 'fridge, that way I won't have to come to florida to raid it. and yes, it does seem like a big bunch of brothers on here. I think there are a few sisters as well. surely there could be more. But like I told Chris a while back, I think it its extraordinary how a big, ugly brown and green ( she will ALWAYS be that to me) airplane can create such a fraternal force, from all different areas of responsibility and duty......I understand, when they first started on the design of the 130, Clarence Johnson did not want to do it, not elegant enough. I doubt if he realized just what they had there. and I can tell ya, there must be one hell of a Tac airlift wing upstairs, with all the people we know who are now..........Maybe some day, I'll get to do an engine start with them..................

Remember his post a while back about, I think, torque guages on his headstone?? I hope he got them the way he wanted....

Well said

Man, this brotherhood is gettin' smaller and smaller. He will be missed here, that's for sure

They only have three on a crew now???? Didn't they, at one time, have maybe five or so???? i guess upgrades reduced crew size. But it is still sad to lose fellow airman..........Certainly has been enough of that in that aprt of the world in the past few days. RIP!!!!!! Giz

Reckon the devil wasn't ready for ya yet!!!!!!!!!!! Sure 'nough had a time of it. Glad it worked out for ya. Take care of yourself now, your wife may not be able to find ice water again.

Oh so that is what droop check meant. I thought it meant.. UHHH never mind!!!!!

Bob daly forwarded me an account of this from soimeone hwo could pretty much be said to be in the know, and it seems this was brought about by an aft movement of part of the cargo that came unsecured, or as any loady would say 'OH, SHIT!!!!!""

Sad to hear this. I don't think I ever met her, but, in my book, Col Brevig was tops. I know he, for some reason, treated me very well, and was about as pleased as i was when I made E-5 . For a while I had some email contacts with his daughter Betty, who had found he had been discussed on the old C-130 site............ Giz

Good, it is about time............at least you have that big obstacle taken care of..... good luck with the rest Giz

yeah, bet they don't have a fire truck come out to wash out their cubicle, or wonder if that beady eyed little son of a bitch setting in the middle of nearly 250 of his countrymen in a 40 foot cargo compartment is havin' hemmorhoid problems or is he tryin' to get to a concealed weapon , or 20 or 30 years from now start developin' diseases and chronic injuries from exposures , or wonder if that storm that is tryin' to tear their airplane apart will be successful, or if their landing gear will come down, etc etc etc..........

See, this shit does not make sense to me..... I had an ID card two days after I started this process. they took my picture on a first appointment to get on the AO registry and something like two days or, I had my card in the mail.......I checked again and my 214 says I was in the UNITED STATES Air Force, not the maryland, or maine, or Kentucky or whatever Air Force, so why the hell is there such a variance in the service????????

My tinnitus claim was rejected, because it could not be determined if it was attributable to to my military service,,,,,seems things lke sirens, power tools and so on was a factor, and since I had no documented complaint of it, I pretty much lost that one, at least for now

I agree, Dan, but I also think some people go into the process ill-advised and expecting things that just are not going to happen. But it doesn't hurt to try, that's for sure.....But like I said, before, some things if you don't have any part of your records showing such an illness or injury or it is not a part of the presumptions, you may have a hard fight..... AND any injury or illness that you were treated for, which is paret of your medical record, whether directly related to your service or not, is open to consideration, example, you were injured in a car wreck, and were treated under military care, even at a civilian hospital, you may have some claim there.......

Yeah, Check-set, I think I recall that, too. It was the comparison of what is a sortie and what is a mission that my old awrds and decs offcier always bitched about.............He compared it for us going to Pope and droppin' troops for two or three days, makin' maybe three or four drops a day, under one mission number.... He flet that the fighter guys would go out drop their eggs, come back re-arm and go again and that would be two missions...........small point, I know.

Hmmmm. anyone remember that fighter sorties counted as "missions" for such things as air medals, but trash hauling was counted differently,,,,,,,,,, you could do four or five sorties a day, but they were under one mission ID, so it only counted as one mission, sometimes even more than one day................. I was permanently awarded my wings in light of having flown ten combat missions, but was told air medals were determined differently................ The UAV wings look like they came out of a cereal box.

Okay, Gary, anything I can do for him, I'll give it a shot................

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Makes sense to me, now, thanks.........

Well, you didn't think an ex-loady, retired fire department truckie, West Virginian German-Irish mule-head was gonna just let a bunch of B"more desk lizards beat me out without a fight, now did ya????? I know I had to use some tactics that others may not know about, so if I can help anyone else with theirs, I'll sure try. sometimes ya just gotta make an down wind landing............ONE thing I learned was that if there is nothing in a military record, physical, etc, or maybe a presumption, it is gonna be a hard thing to prove or get a high enough evaluation to count....

Gary, if there is anything I can add, from my experience, to help, send me a private message and we will go that route. I have learned that not everybody gets the same treatment, and my experience is much different than others, but it could provide some direction. I'd be glad to help in any way I can Giz