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Thanks Dan. That's sort of what I was getting at. I believe that we had 73-1580 to 73-1598, if memories serve. Just E models with -15s and the water removal system. That little tube was all that distinguished the 73 H's from E's from the outside.

I was LRF starting in 1975 and we had the 73 Hs, basically pretty much E models with -15s; E model ACs, bleed system. The only other difference that I recall was the water removal system in the fuel tanks. I thought that the Dyess H models, 74s, were the 1st true H models, namely the ACs packs. It would appear that from the 73s on that the engines were all going to be -15s.

A woman awakes during the night to find that her husband was not in their bed. She puts on her robe and goes downstairs to look for him. She finds him sitting at the kitchen table with a cup of coffee in front of him. He appears deep in thought, just staring at the wall. She watches as he wipes a tear from his eye and takes a sip of coffee. "What's the matter dear?" she whispers as she steps into the room, "Why are you down here at this time of night?" "Do you remember when I met you and you were only 16?" he asks solemnly. The wife is touched to tears thinking that her husband is so caring and sensitive. "Yes, I do" she replies. The husband pauses. The words are not coming easily. "Do you remember when your father caught us in the back seat of my car?" "Yes, I remember" says the wife, lowering herself into a chair beside him. The husband continues... "Do you remember when he shoved a shotgun in my face and said, "Either you marry my daughter, or I will send you to jail for 20 years?'" "I remember that too" she replies softly. He wipes another tear from his cheek and says... "I would have gotten out today."

Subject: The Alaskan Barbie Collection - Just in Time for Christmas Giving! Juneau Barbie: Juneau Barbie has a good job working for the State. She gets to travel to Anchorage frequently, where she buys her clothes at Eddie Bauer and Nordstrom. She keeps herself in tip top shape, and participates in the Kluane bike race, as well as the Skagway to Whitehorse Klondike run. She and her girlfriends love to drink, dance, and sing together, re-living their athletic accomplishments. Juneau Barbie has a lot of help around the house because Juneau Ken lost his politically appointed position during the last change of administration. Juneau Ken works part time as a "consultant", but he is frequently seen helping with his daughter's Montessori school field trips, and driving his son to the O.D.T. (Olympic Development Team) soccer practices. He is an active participant with the Juneau Ski Club, and helps coach his daughter's Mitey Mite team. Juneau Ken is a member of the Sierra Club, Friends of Recycling, and serves on the Middle School Site Council. Haines Barbie: Haines Barbie is originally from the East Coast, but moved to Alaska after school in California. She drives a small Toyota truck with a camper shell in the back. Haines Barbie dresses in birkenstocks and carhharts in the dry months, and extratuffs and carhartts in the wet months. Haines Barbie can do anything a man can do. She built her own cabin at Mud Bay, with the help of her then-lover Jennifer. Haines Barbie works very hard to save the environment. She was successful in shutting down the timber industry, as well as driving off the cruise ships. She is very low-profile about her family trust fund. Things worked out okay for awhile with Haines Ken. But Haines Ken had a difficult time finding employment in Haines. One week he took the ferry to Juneau to protest the Kensington Mine project. He saw women wearing stockings, showing off their smoothly shaved legs. He doesn't know how it happened, but he hooked up one night with an urban environmentalist. She smelled fabulous, and was wearing silky matching lingerie. Haines Ken was hooked! He took a job working for the Forest Service and moved to Juneau. Homer Barbie: Homer Barbie comes with a doctorate in environmental sciences and a 70's-90's Subaru. She is very good friends with Girdwood Barbie. She also comes with a life-time pass to the Bay Club, a punch-card to Captain's Coffee, a job at Homer Mental Health, a membership to the Pratt Museum, a kayak, and a self-righteous, holier-than-thou attitude. Homer Ken is either fishing, at the bar, or studying in the states. His friends know, but they won't tell her. Homer Barbie is available at Solstice Music, KBBI, Ptarmigan Arts, or any of the regular Downward Dog Production outlets. Ninilchik Barbie: Ninilchik Barbie comes in two very distinct models, Good Ninilchik Barbie and Bad Ninilchik Barbie. Good Ninilchik Barbie comes with a lot of baggage. She has two small kids and about 50,000 dollars in student loans. She has a nice face and a sweet personality but becomes instantly enraged when anyone mentions Ninilchik Ken who has run off with his cousin. Good Ninilchik Barbie can be found either in church or at Deep Creek Custom Packing. Bad Ninilchik Barbie is the racier of the two models. She is voice activated to spew foul language or spread her legs. She comes with a pick-up truck, a pack of juvenile pseudo-Kens, with whom she attended high school, and a keg of beer. She is also know as Instant Tail Gate Party Barbie. She can be found inhaling her dinner over a mirror at the Inlet View. Anchor Point Barbie: Anchor Point Barbie is missing three teeth, has boobs down to her waistline, and comes with four kids under the age of 10. She has a custom made pool cue, a Barbie dream shack without running water, electricity, an outhouse, and several vehicles that don't work parked in her trash-filled yard. A.P. Barbie doesn't come with A.P. Ken, but if you know where he is, be sure to let us know so she can kick that no-good sonofabitch's ass and collect some child support. Available at Goodwill. Soldotna Barbie: Soldotna Barbie has very processed hair, dresses like a teen-ager, and wears a lot of blue-eyeliner. She doesn't have a job, a GED, or a Ken. She comes with a bag of pills. Condoms may or may not be included. She is VERY available during tourist season at the Riverside or Hooligans. Kenai Barbie: Kenai Barbie wears all leather, drives a Harley, and can teach you how to play pool. She is very friendly if you are not intimidated by her truck-driving biceps. You can pick her up at the King's Inn, but likely Kenai Ken will smash your face in for trying. Sterling Barbie: Sterling Barbie is pale and thin with long stringy hair and pockmarked face. She has two kids, but they stay with her mother. She drives Slope-worker Ken's brand-new Chevy pick-up. No one has seen Sterling Barbie for weeks, but we think she's staying with Spenard Barbie in Anchorage. Nikiski Barbie: Nikiski Barbie isn't available anywhere. She is spotted, infrequently, running errands for her children or husband, wearing a turtle-neck, heavy make-up, and large, dark sunglasses. She says she falls down a lot, but never has time to talk about it. Nikiski Ken works at Agrium and doesn't have time to worry about this kind of bullshit, dammit! Kasilof Barbie: Kasilof Barbie looks similar to her sister, Girdwood Babie, except she comes with a gun and a dog team and isn't afraid to get a little bloody in the search of her next meal. She won't tell you where she lives, but she knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy if you know what we mean. Kasilof Ken may or may not be one of those guys, but he's definitely down with whatever. Kodiak Barbie: Super skinny coke whore driving a beat up rusty yellow Toyota Corolla with outdated plates and an empty gun rack in the rear window. Lots of Harley Davidson bumper stickers. Drinks Rainer Beer like water and lets her six kids baby-sit themselves while she walks around Downtown, looking for the ships that she swears were there a minute ago! Shops for clothes at the Mission. Ken's out fishing crab, but she has Extra Coast Guard Ken under her bed for emergencies. She would like more money for booze and black hair dye to cover her grey roots and distract from her rotten teeth. Wears tight faded jeans with pullover hoodie with a snappy saying like, "Alaska: Where Men Are Men, And So Are The Women" and her faded "Iditarod" tee shirt, beat up stinky rubber cannery boots to match her Helly Hansen rain gear. Likes to saddle up to the Philapinos Downtown and pretend she knows what the hell they are talking about. Knows every musician in town, and thinks they are all her boyfriend, while she dances like a wasted idiot at the Mecca. Used to be pretty, but now has to rely on five layers of Cover Girl to mask her black eye she got while trying to butter up a fisherman at the ATM. Hillside Barbie This princess Barbie is only sold at Nordstrom. She comes with an assortment of Kate Spade handbags, your choice of a BMW convertible or Hummer H2 and a longhaired foreign lapdog named Honey, and a cookie-cutter dream house with a to-die-for view of the inlet. Also included are a Starbucks mug, credit card set, and Alaska Airlines Gold MVP membership. Available with or without tummy tuck, facelift, and boob-job. Workaholic, shallow, cheating husband Ken comes with a Porsche. Southside Barbie This modern-day homemaker Barbie is available with a Ford Explorer and matching Alaska Club workout ensemble. She gets lost easily and has no full time occupation. Comes with Percocet prescription and Botox. Traffic-jamming cell phone sold separately. Husband Ken is into fishing, hunting, golfing, eating, and lusting for other women. Available at Costco. Spenard Barbie This recently paroled Barbie comes with a 9mm handgun, switchblade, '78 El Camino with dark tinted windows, and a meth lab kit. This model is available only after dark and can only be purchased with cash - preferably small bills, unless you're a cop, then we don't know what you're talking about. Boyfriend Ken is in jail. Available at many pawnshops. Government Hill Barbie This pale model comes dressed in her own Wrangler jeans 2 sizes too small, a classic Metallica t-shirt and a Tweety Bird tattoo on her shoulder. She has a six-pack of Budweiser and a Hank Williams, Jr. CD set. She can spit over a distance of 6 feet and kick mullet-haired Ken's ass when she is drunk. Purchase her pickup truck separately and get a Confederate flag bumper sticker absolutely free. Boyfriend Ken is in treatment. Available at Army Navy Surplus. Muldoon Barbie This tobacco chewing, brassy-haired Barbie comes with a pair of high-heeled sandals with one broken heel from the time she chased Beer-Gut Ken out of Government Hill Barbie's apartment. Her ensemble includes low-rise acid-washed jeans, fake fingernails, strawberry lip-gloss, and a see-through halter top. Comes with Barbie's Dream Double Wide Trailer. Available at Wal-Mart. Mountain View Barbie Pregnant at purchase, this Barbie comes with a stroller and bus pass. Also included is a GED and a completely filled out PFD form. Gangsta Ken and his '82 Caddy are optional. Available at Value Village. Girdwood Barbie This Barbie is made out of recycled plastic and tofu. She has long straight brown hair, archless feet, hairy armpits, no makeup, and Birkenstocks with white socks. She does not want or need a Ken doll, but if you purchase the optional Subaru wagon, you will receive a free rainbow flag sticker. Available at REI. Downtown Barbie This versatile doll can be easily converted from Barbie to Ken by simply adding or removing snap-on parts. Walks to work. Likes to "experiment", but will never commit. This model is being phased-out and is only available from the manufacturer.

1. Your ass is never a factor in a job interview. 2. Your orgasms are real. Always. 3. Your last name stays put. 4. The garage is all yours. 5. Wedding plans take care of themselves. 6. You never feel compelled to stop a friend from getting laid. 7. Car mechanics tell you the truth. 8. You don't give a rat's ass if someone notices your new haircut. 9. Hot wax never comes near your pubic area. 10. Same work ... more pay. 11. Wrinkles-add character. 12. You don't have to leave the room to make emergency crotch adjustments. 13. Wedding Dress $2000; Tux rental $100. 14. If you retain water, it's in a canteen. 15. People never glance at your chest when you're talking to them. 16. New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet. 17. Porn movies are designed with you in mind. 18. Your pals can be trusted never to ask you, "So, notice anything different?" 19. One mood, ALL the damn time. 20. Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds. 21. A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase. 22. You can open all your own jars. 24. You can go to a public toilet without a support group. 25. You can leave the motel bed unmade. 26. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness. 27. If someone forgets to invite you to something, you can still be friends. 28. Your underwear is $10 for a three-pack. 29. If you are 34 and single, nobody notices. 30. Everything on your face stays its original color. 31. You can quietly enjoy a car ride from the passenger's seat. 32. Three pairs of shoes are more than enough. 33. You don't have to clean your apartment if the meter reader is coming. 34. You can quietly watch a game with your buddy for hours without ever thinking ''He must be mad at me. 35. No maxi-pads. 36. You don't mooch off other's desserts. 37. You can drop by to see a friend without having to bring a little gift. 38. If another guy shows up at the party in the same outfit, you just might become lifelong friends. 39. You are not expected to know the names of more than five colors. 40. You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. 41. You almost never have strap problems in public. 42. You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes. 43. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades. 44. You don't have to shave below your neck. 45. Your belly usually hides your big hips. 46. One wallet and one pair of shoes, one color, all seasons. 47. You can "do" your nails with a pocketknife. 48. You have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache. 49. Christmas shopping can be accomplished for 25 relatives, on December24th, in minutes. 50. The world is your urinal Ten Things men know for sure about women. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9.

1. Your houseplants are alive, and you can't smoke any of them. 2. Having sex in a twin bed is out of the question. 3. You keep more food than beer in the fridge. 4. 6:00 AM is when you get up, not when you go to bed 5. You hear your favorite song in an elevator. 6. You watch the Weather Channel. 7. Your friends marry and divorce instead of "hook up" and "break up." 8. You go from 130 days of vacation time to 14. 9. Jeans and a sweater no longer qualify as "dressed up." 10. You're the one calling the police because those %&@# kids next door won't turn down the stereo. 11. Older relatives feel comfortable telling sex jokes around you. 12. You don't know what time Taco Bell closes anymore. 13. Your car insurance goes down and your car payments go up. 14. You feed your dog Science Diet instead of McDonald's leftovers. 15. Sleeping on the couch makes your back hurt. 16. You take naps. 17. Dinner and a movie is the whole date instead of the beginning of one. 18. Eating a basket of chicken wings at 3 AM would severely upset, rather than settle, your stomach. 19. You go to the drug store for ibuprofen and antacid, not condoms and pregnancy tests. 20. A $4.00 bottle of wine is no longer "pretty good shit." 21. You actually eat breakfast food at breakfast time. 22. "I just can't drink the way I used to" replaces "I'm never going to drink that much again." 23. 90% of the time you spend in front of a computer is for real work. 24. You drink at home to save money before going to a bar. 25. When you find out your friend is pregnant you congratulate them Instead of asking "Oh crap - what the h--- happened?"

1. "Don't you have some laundry to do or something?" 2. "No really...I was laughing about a joke I heard one time." 3. "Ohh, you are so cute when you get all pissed off." 4. "You're just upset because your ass is beginning to spread." 5. "Wait a minute...I get it. What time of the month is it? 6. "Are you gonna cry? (force lip to quiver mockingly)...cry for your mommy?" 7. "You sure you don't want to consult the great Oprah on this one? 8. "Sorry. I was just picturing you naked. 9. "That reminds me. Next time you go to the store could you add a giant fucking cork to the shopping list? 10. "Whoa, time out honey. Football is on." 11. "Looks like someone had an extra bowl of Bitch Flakes this morning. 12. "Is there any way we can do this via e-mail?" 13. "Hey baby - if I want a lecture on commitment, I can get one from my real wife." 14. "I could sooo use a blow job right now." 15. "Who are you kidding? We both know that thing ain't loaded."

Back in '83 when we went to Red Flag with the 17th, we attended a briefing where a "proposal" was to arm a Herk with air-to-air weapons with the racks mounted on the fuselage, or some other non-obvious places, so it could fly in a formation with regular Herks and attack any airborne threats without being seen as an obvious threat first glance. Guess it never really panned out. I agree with Dan. Why take away a refuel asset when the launch rails could be mounted elsewhere.

I didn't know that they got rid of the wing isolation valves. How did they configure the bleed air system then?

Don't seem to get that many weirdos in the Anchorage mid-town store, but you almost have to speak filipino (sp) or polynesian (sp) to get anything accomplished or found.

Muff, may have to forgive a fading memory but didn't the FEs open the ramp and door for airdrops using the switch on the center console? I seem to recall doing many times.

Dan, I couldn't agree more. My early years were on recips, crewing and FM. I didn't have any of the maintenance info to confuse with the FE info. Made an easier transition for me. I did get into the -2s and Lockheed manuals for more in-depth system info, and made notes in my -1 with pertinent info.

April 82 could be right. I had left LRF, driving to Ohio to see famility, then on to Fairchild for survival school (been on Hercs since '75 and finally had to go through survival school!). Then finally to EDF on May 25th.

Not sure if it started it or not, but right after I left LRF for EDF in May 1982 a LRF bird that took off late was trying to join up with a Phase II formation and while cranking it around in a joining turn rolled back the other way to miss a bug smasher and lost a wing. I don't remember all the specifics but i do know that one of the pilots on the bird had been a student in the 16th at the time and he and his wife were renting an apartment where i lived and he always hit me up with questions whenever we were at the apartment pool at the same time.

I know the feeling. From where I work Lynden has a hanger and ops close by. Nearly every day I can hear them start up, taxi out, taxi in, shutdown, etc. Hearing them jockey the throttles forward and aft and the sound of the props. Brings back many memories.

Always glad to help.

If memory serves, the prop was positioned so that the base of the prop was aligned with the prop cuff. Don't remember all the specifics about the buddy start, but having the prop on the cuff was the main thing to get the correct blade angle.

Man, I sweated bullets trying to learn the operation of this system....... As well as the 13 step "bold face".....

Seems to me, that back in the day, we called this putting the "prop on the cuff" in case a buddy start was required.

My wife got it in an email and I thought i'd share it. See below: BBQ Rules: We are about to enter the BBQ season. Therefore it is important to refresh your memory on the etiquette of this sublime outdoor cooking activity . When a man volunteers to do the BBQ the following chain of events are put into motion: Routine... (1) The woman buys the food. (2) The woman makes the salad, prepares the vegetables, and makes dessert. (3) The woman prepares the meat for cooking, places it on a tray along with the necessary cooking utensils and sauces, and takes it to the man who is lounging beside the grill - beer in hand. (4) The woman remains outside the compulsory three meter exclusion zone where the exuberance of testosterone and other manly bonding activities can take place without the interference of the woman. Here comes the important part: (5) THE MAN PLACES THE MEAT ON THE GRILL. More routine... (6) The woman goes inside to organize the plates and cutlery. (7) The woman comes out to tell the man that the meat is looking great. He thanks her and asks if she will bring another beer while he flips the meat Important again: (8) THE MAN TAKES THE MEAT OFF THE GRILL AND HANDS IT TO THE WOMAN. More routine... (9) The woman prepares the plates, salad, bread, utensils, napkins, sauces, and brings them to the table. (10) After eating, the woman clears the table and does the dishes. And most important of all: (11) Everyone PRAISES the MAN and THANKS HIM for his cooking efforts. (12) The man asks the woman how she enjoyed ' her night off ' and, upon seeing her annoyed reaction, concludes that there's just no pleasing some women!

That's supposed to be DeJa Moo. Think we've heard this BS before.

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I've always looked the J as more of an "airline" airplane - glass cockpit, 2 pilots, nothing more. I work at a flight training facility for a major cargo airline (no names now), and I see the 747 and MD-11 pilots come and go for their 6 month and 12 month training and quals, as well as initial quals. Kind of scary for an old FE like myself. Knowing you've got 2 bus drivers up front and that's it. I'm not dismissing the J model loads here they work hard too, our planes have "loaders" too they just don't fly with the airplane.

We did call TIT at 900, but when you've got some John Wayne IP or student there are times when they pushed the throttles forward way too fast and then you could call 900 but that was only as the TIT went through 900 on the way up. I once went out on a "hot turn". That was where the FE met the bird as it taxied into parking and "debriefed" the 1st FE so that a pre-flight was not required for the afternoon flight. The FE wrote up the engines for over-torque to 23,000. Maintenance made it a Red /. I upgraded to a Red X, crossed out the original name and put mine in. Sure pissed off maintenance, and said I couldn't do that. They finally got the line chief and E-7 engine shop guy out there trying to brow-beat me. I pointed them to the maintenance reg that addressed upgrading write-ups. Don't remember now what it was, 66 something I think. Guess they didn't deal much with FEs who were ex-crew chiefs, albeit it was on recipts. Anyway, they explained the TO requirements for over-torques, down-graded it back to a red /, and we flew our training mission. That's really all I wanted was an explanation of the inspection requirements. Seems it was like the bird could fly for 50 hours before an inspection was required.

Dan, when I was the Rock that's what we had to do with the E's and the 73 H's. The only things we really had to watch out for was the IPs and students moving the throttles too fast on T & Gs with the H models in the winter. Easy to over torque them.