herkfixer Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Heard about this yesterday on the news and a mil-air monitoring group. This is a 146th bird from Channel Islands at Peterson AFB, CO. Word that I had heard was "torque strut had broken" by looking at the picture I would say that the main strut broke and is hanging from the torque strut. In my 21 years crewing I have never heard or seen such a thing. http://www.gazette.com/articles/landing-116395-springs-airport.html Click on the "enlarge" for a better view. 73, Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDizzle Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I seem to remember hearing a simlar story about a herk where the inner strut separated from the outer strut and the wheel hung free. Definitely not a good situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wilkinson Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I might have the date in my notes somewhere, but there was a similar incident in '91 or '92 involving a Little Rock bird. As I recall, it was involved in a hard landing at the All-American Drop zone (Camp Robinson?). As the airplane rotated off, the right aft strut came apart. The airplane landed back at LR, and the wheel folded under the fuselage. You could stand in the cargo compartment and see the ground thru the hole it created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercmech14 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Had a similar incident happen to a Pittsburgh H model '86-0419' at Roosevelt Roads. If I remember correctly, the front right main strut came apart hanging by the torque strut from the aft gear. Gear collapsed when they landed and threw parts of number 4 prop through the fuselage. Nobody hurt but lots of damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkfixer Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 Had a similar incident happen to a Pittsburgh H model '86-0419' at Roosevelt Roads. If I remember correctly, the front right main strut came apart hanging by the torque strut from the aft gear. Gear collapsed when they landed and threw parts of number 4 prop through the fuselage. Nobody hurt but lots of damage. As you can see in the picture the #4 engine is already "caged" for landing, obviously to avert the problems that you mentioned. 73, Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herkloadie Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Had a similar incident happen to a Pittsburgh H model '86-0419' at Roosevelt Roads. If I remember correctly, the front right main strut came apart hanging by the torque strut from the aft gear. Gear collapsed when they landed and threw parts of number 4 prop through the fuselage. Nobody hurt but lots of damage. :eek: I literally just walked off that bird for a night profile HE/CDS. Has Pope/Bragg on the tail now but apparently it now "belongs" to the rock for good. Rec ride-complete :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Talon 1 F/E Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Hey Eng. can you go back and check that? Oh yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizzard Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 TOO MANY PROP BLADES PERHAPS???????????????????????????? Sure would not want to try to tie THAT gear up. Might be a little hard gettin' the chain around it... guess that is still part of the emergency procedure for main gear problems???? Giz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZHill Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Have to give the crew credit, they thought ahead and shut #4 down. Good job Loadengineermaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDizzle Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 The story said they were out flying around so they must have got the gear up and locked at least once. Wonder what happened to make it suddenly fall apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDizzle Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Have to give the crew credit, they thought ahead and shut #4 down. Good job Loadengineermaster Dunno about the J -1 but the H -1 does mention giving "consideration" to shutting down the OB engine on one side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 A similar malfunction occurred on a Combat Talon 64-0561 after 36 touch and go landings at CCK on 24 November 1966, and the aircraft was flown to a foamed runway at Kadena where it landed safely (from "The Praetorian Starship" by Jerry Thigpen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGRetired Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Yep, that looks familiar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDizzle Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 CGRetired, what's that pic from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmac_Project Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I might have the date in my notes somewhere, but there was a similar incident in '91 or '92 involving a Little Rock bird. As I recall, it was involved in a hard landing at the All-American Drop zone (Camp Robinson?). As the airplane rotated off, the right aft strut came apart. The airplane landed back at LR, and the wheel folded under the fuselage. You could stand in the cargo compartment and see the ground thru the hole it created. I remember that incident. Pretty cool landing. Engine Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGRetired Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Sorry BDizzle I'll have to decline naming sources. It is interesting that the gear is up and the problem pieces are dangling. Senior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJamison Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Happen to Bob Makon and Greg Killiens in 1999 at Dyess. Although rare, it is not unheard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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