Muff Millen

I wonder where all those armored loadmaster seats are stored> Those damn things weighed a ton and were a big pain in the butt to install and remove. I do not recall anyone ever using one. Muff Millen

My unit doesn\'t take brand new FEs. We don\'t have this problem. AD slick units are doing this - LRF\'s product is \"good enough\". USHerk....since when is \"good enough\" a standard? Wow! Everytime I had a check ride I learned that what I knew was never \"good enough\". Now make believe you are a molicule of hyd fluid in the Util hyd reservior, now tell me everything you pass on the way to acuitating the left aileron then return to the reservior. This was a standard question on one of my check rides. Also another was an electron of power from the generator to the #4 fuel boost pump. What really is good enough? Muff

I\'m an old fart and am not up to date on new terminology.... What is FEB and AEB and also what does AFI 11-402 cover? Muff

That airplane (62-1788)has some great history. It is the plane that helped the crew I was on to be awarded the Silver Star. On the last day of the Vietnam war we went to Delat Cam Lai to pick up the VN cadets to take them around country to explain to the locals that the war was over. During engine running loading of the cadets the base came under heavy mortar fire. This plane was hit on the trailing edge of the left flap and shrapnel was sprayed all over the left side and up on the vertical stab. Left rear main tire blown. After a couple hours in the bunker and a call on the emergency radio another C-130 brought us a new tire and a jack. We had to jump start the GTC with a FAC bird dog battery and we took off and just after take off had to shut down #2 for big fuel leak from flap well, lost hyd fluid, cranked gear down and made an emergency landing at NKP.......airplane had over 400 holes from the shrapnel..was a very member able day.....Glad to see that the old girl is still flying. And a big congrats to this crew for recovering from the 4 engine rollback. Muff Millen

Dan, you are right. But I had a good budy on Spector and it used to piss the crews off when the fac would come back with a \"undetermed kill\" when they used the 105 as there was never enough left to confirm a positive kill...would only score it as a \"possible\" How will the laser kills be evalvated? I\'m with you bettr laser sights on the 40s. Muff

Don, those were the days! Too bad they are gone forever. Thanks for the post. Muff

The best part of being stationed at Pope was that you didn\'t have to go TDY to Pope!!! Oh yea the Ft Bragg and Pope NCO clubs were great hunting grounds for us single guys. :) :P

Well said Herkeng....I totally agree. I almost had a heart attack when they shot down SAC....My first 5 years were in SAC (1958-1963) and I can still remember the total requirement to follow the regs or else! And the two man concept was the law! Oh how I wish the entire AF was like it was back in the 50-60s...no one in the world would even think about getting froggy with us.....Now look at all the reserves and guard folks taking up the slack...God bless them. Sure hope we see some positive changes in the near future. Muff

Got this off the AFA news letter: Muff Missing Vietnam War Airmen Identified: The Department of Defense announced May 27 that it has identified the remains of four airmen who were part of a 14-man AC-130 gunship crew that went missing when their aircraft was shot down by a surface-to-air missile in March 1972 during an armed reconnaissance mission over southern Laos. Two of the airmen were Maj. Barclay B. Young of Hartford, Conn., and SMSgt. James K. Caniford of Brunswick, Md. DOD is withholding the names of the two others at the request of their families. Caniford will be buried today (May 28) in Arlington National Cemetery; Young\'s burial date is being set by his family. In addition to the four, remains of other crewmen from the AC-130 that could not be individually identified are included in a group that will be buried together in Arlington. Among the group remains is Lt. Col. Henry P. Brauner of Franklin Park, N.J., whose identification tag was recovered at the crash site in Savannakhet Province, Laos.

Attended a memorial ceremony this AM at Smyrna Georgia city Veterans memorial....very impressive I was especially proud of the outstanding service men and women that were there and are taking our place to defend and protect our freedoms. Had a big tear run down my cheek as a C-130H from the 94th Wing made a low pass at exactly 10AM the start of the Memorial service. Hit that TOT perfect...makes an old man really proud. Thanks to all who serve and have served. Muff

Here is a good site for you great folks that flew the trail mostly at night droping flares or on the AC Herks. A lot of current day photos of the trail very interesting. Muff http://tinyurl.com:80/68hl5f

wtf...get a life just another wanna be pissing up a rope. Just how the hell can a photo of a C-130 taken in a public place be copy righted? Who gave permission to take the picture. OBTW where is the credit for the SW plane beside your post. Muff

Ijust got this info from a friend and thought you folks on this board would be interested. Godspeed Jimmy...you will never be forgotten. Muff Date Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:12 AM Subject SMSgt James Kenneth Caniford (MIA/KIA) recovered in Laos, AC-130A \'Spectre 13\' Graveside Service will be at 1:00 p.m. (E.S.T.) Wednesday, 28 May 2008 in Arlington National Cemetery with full military honors and a flyover. Although Arlington is running a couple of months behind, because of so many WWII, Korea & Vietnam veteran funerals, Active Duty has priority and Jimmy is still carried as Active Duty ...so he moves to the head of the line. ~ Godspeed Jimmy ~ ---------- Forwarded message -- AC-130A s.n. 55-0044 Prometheus Call sign \"Spectre 13\" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Scatback Scribe <[email protected]> Date: Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:09 AM Subject: SMSgt James Kenneth Caniford (MIA/KIA) recovered in Laos, AC-130A \'Spectre 13\' The Frederick News-Post 351 Ballenger Center Drive Frederick, MD 21703 (west of Baltimore, MD ...NW of Washington D.C.) Missing airman\'s remains identified After nearly 40 years, Middletown service member\'s death in plane crash confirmed March 20, 2008 By David Simon News-Post Staff http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?storyID=72687 The remains of Vietnam War service member Jimmy Caniford were found during a recent dig in Laos. This photo, taken in about 1970, shows him in Thailand. fredericknewspost.com/pow After nearly 36 years, James Caniford and his family can stop wondering. Wednesday morning, the Fort Myers, Fla., resident received a call from the Air Force. An official told him that a recent dig in Laos had unearthed enough material to confirm that his son, U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt. James Kenneth Caniford, was killed in a plane crash during the Vietnam War. Known as Jimmy, he was the only Vietnam War service member to be classified as a Prisoner of War or Missing in Action from Frederick County. Nationwide, there are roughly 1,800 unaccounted-for service members from the Vietnam War. The confirmation is unofficial at this point, Caniford said, and the family plans to meet with Air Force officials next week to discuss details about bringing his son\'s remains back to the United States. It\'s possible he could be buried with full military honors at Arlington National Cemetery. Jimmy\'s younger sister, Shelly Caniford, said hearing the news was terrible, but good -- in part because the family feared Jimmy might have been taken prisoner. \"I thought I\'d have to die to see my brother again,\" she said. \"We know he died in the plane crash -- Dad can bring him home and that\'s a good thing.\" The Canifords, originally from Middletown, spent more than 30 years piecing together much of what happened to Jimmy on March 29, 1972. Early that morning, Jimmy joined 13 other airmen on board an AC-130 gunship on a mission in the heavily defended province of Savannakhet in southern Laos. As an illuminator operator, Jimmy\'s job was to spot targets on the battlefield. Before takeoff, Jimmy shared a hot dog and a soda with Ken Felty, a crew member from another plane. During that mission, three AC-130s flew together, escorted by an F-4E Phantom II. Something went wrong with Felty\'s plane, which was supposed to fly first in the formation. Jimmy\'s crew took the lead instead. About 3 a.m., the escort spotted three surface-to-air missiles. The first one grazed the gunship, but the second one struck Jimmy\'s plane, which exploded in flight, sending the pieces tumbling to the ground. The escort didn\'t see any parachutes open. Wreckage burned on the ground, and search and rescue efforts continued for the next two days but no signs of survivors were found. While the wreckage was visible from the air, enemy forces kept ground crews away. For Jimmy\'s family, that\'s when the wait started. It ended Wednesday the same way it began -- with contact from the Air Force. \"I had mixed emotions when I answered the phone,\" said Caniford, 83. \"I had been looking for this. ... You always hang on to hope.\" Diana DiLoreto, Jimmy\'s older sister, said the news was bittersweet. \"I\'m relieved that there\'s closure -- more for my parents than for myself,\" she said. \"I always prayed that they would have an answer before they died.\" Less than a year apart in age, DiLoreto was Jimmy\'s best friend. \"You know what I\'ve wanted all along -- to put flowers on his grave,\" she said. \"Now I can finally do that.\" \'Please don\'t tell me\' Air Force Sgt. James Kenneth Caniford is the only Vietnam War service member from Frederick County whose remains were never recovered. This is his story. by Joseph M. de Leon News-Post Staff http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/special_sections/pow/caniford.htm Two days after graduating from Middletown High School in 1966, Jimmy Caniford flew to San Antonio to attend basic training at Lackland Air Force Base. Talk back: Post and view comments The day Jimmy Caniford got his first haircut, he found his destiny. In late 1949, blond curls covered the 1-year-old\'s face. His father, Jim Caniford, took Jimmy to Frank Snoots\' barber shop at the square corner on West Potomac Street in Brunswick. \"I put him in the chair and sat him on that little bench,\" he said. \"As soon as I backed off, my son looked at me and started to cry.\" Caniford had to think quick to calm his son, so he said a P-38 airplane was on its way. Snoots turned on the clippers and made a sweeping motion to mimic an approaching plane. As Snoots arced the electric shears closer, Jimmy stopped crying. When the clippers buzzed his ear, he giggled. \"That was the last time he cried in a barber shop,\" he said. \"I think that was the beginning of his love for aircraft. From then on, that\'s all he ever talked about.\" Jimmy was the first of three children and the only son born to Jim and Janice Caniford, who live in Fort Myers, Fla. The couple had hoped for twins, but Diana was born 11 months later. Their youngest, Shelly, came about four years after. The family lived at 142 W. Church St., across from Baker Park. Over the next 12 years, the Caniford children shared joy and spread mischief. Once, when the trio would played in the park, Jimmy and Diana trapped Shelly on a swinging bridge that crossed Carroll Creek. They rocked the bridge back and forth, telling Shelly it was about to collapse. As they grew older, Jimmy often took his sisters fishing and let Shelly join him on his paper route. Even though she didn\'t work much, he always gave her a dollar. Sometimes, Jimmy got himself into trouble. When Caniford bought a new claw hammer from Sears, he warned Jimmy not to use it. The 6-foot teen was known for his heavy hand. While his dad was away, Jimmy hammered together some wooden boards and took the wheels off a pair of bicycles to make a road racer. He broke one of the claws off the hammer. \"When I got home, I went into orbit Ñ he really upset the old man,\" Caniford said. \"He wasn\'t perfect, but I loved him for it.\" When the family moved to Wolfsville in 1963, Jimmy built a playhouse for Shelly in the loft of the barn. He added a ramp so the family dog, Pepper, could join his baby sister. \"Of the three of us, Jimmy was the kindest,\" Shelly said. \"There was just a sweetness about my brother. He never pushed me aside and never told me no. Jimmy was just a good person through and through.\" Head in the clouds Jimmy dreamed about flying. He flew paper airplanes, built model jets and borrowed books about military aircraft from the library. After three years in Wolfsville, the family moved back to Frederick. During his senior year at Middletown High, Jimmy talked to Ken Grimes, an Air Force recruiter who was the family\'s Allstate insurance salesman. During one of the weekly fishing trips along the Monocacy River, Jimmy asked his dad about joining. \"I know you want me to go to college, but I don\'t want you to be concerned with that,\" Jimmy said. \"If it\'s OK with you and you don\'t have any objections, I want to sign up with the Air Force.\" \"Why do you want to go into the service?\" Caniford asked. \"You know I love planes,\" Jimmy said. \"I can be around the airplanes, and I can continue my studies.\" It was 1966, the height of escalation for American involvement in the Vietnam War. But Caniford didn\'t object. As a medium tank driver in the Army during World War II, he understood the value of serving in the military. For many teens in Frederick County at the time, college wasn\'t an option, Shelly said. Jimmy often earned money helping farmers throughout the county. \"Growing up, all you\'d see was farmers,\" she said. \"If he joined the Air Force, he\'d get an education and wouldn\'t be stuck pushing a plow. But I never thought for a minute that he\'d never come back.\" Two days after graduation, Jimmy flew to San Antonio to attend basic training at Lackland Air Force Base. He soon became an illuminator operator on an AC-130 gunship. Jimmy\'s job was to spot targets on the battlefield. \"They would send a beam down, and it would bounce back to tell them what was on the ground and what was moving,\" Caniford said. \"One day they thought it was tanks, but it turned out to be elephants. They were using them to transport supplies.\" An Air Force staff sergeant, he spent much of his time flat on his belly looking over the open ramp at the back of an AC-130 gunship, calling out anti-aircraft artillery and setting off flares to divert enemy heat-seeking missiles. When Jimmy came home during leave, he wouldn\'t say much about his missions. But he told all his friends and family how much he loved the Air Force. He planned to make a career of it. He had found his niche, so he re-enlisted in 1970. \"I could never quite comprehend Jimmy in a plane in a war,\" Shelly said. \"He was different when he came back; you could see the boy went, it was gone. Now, he was this just amazing man.\" While on leave in October 1971, Jimmy spoke with his dad in private. He had a bad feeling about returning to Vietnam for his second tour. The next day, Jimmy waited with his parents at Dulles International Airport for a flight back to the war. Just before boarding the plane, Jimmy removed his aviator\'s watch. \"Daddy, I want you to hold this for me,\" Jimmy said. \"You can wear it until I get back.\" \"Don\'t you need your Seiko?\" Caniford asked. \"No, I have another one,\" Jimmy said. \"I might ask you for it again, but I\'m giving it to you to hold.\" Caniford held the watch in his hand as he watched his son board the plane and the door close. As the jet taxied on the runway, Caniford\'s wife held out her hand. \"You\'d better wave at your son,\" she said. \"It\'ll be the last time you see him.\" \'Please don\'t tell me\' About 3 a.m. March 29, 1972, Caniford woke up when his wife sat up and screamed \"Jimmy!\" She saw her only son dead. Caniford reassured her Jimmy was fine. Everything would be OK. It was just a dream. Caniford worked as a meat inspector at a slaughterhouse in Hagerstown, so he was used to waking early. That morning, he got up extra early to take his wife to her mother\'s house in Hagerstown. She planned to spend the day helping her sister clean and paint their mother\'s kitchen. While Janice painted the walls turquoise and Caniford surveyed the kill floor, a male sergeant and a female captain dressed in Air Force uniforms walked up the sidewalk to their Frederick townhouse on West Third Street. Shelly was home alone. She recently started attending Frederick Community College to study elementary education, but there was no school that day. \"When I saw those Air Force people come, I knew they weren\'t there to bring good news,\" she said. \"It\'s like a slow motion dream. I remember opening the door and calling my sister hysterical, but the next few days were a blur.\" The Air Force representatives would only tell Jimmy\'s parents why they had come. Shelly, 18 at the time, refused to tell them where her parents were unless they told her what happened to her brother. Jimmy\'s gunship had been shot down. Rescue attempts would continue for 72 hours. That\'s all they would say. \"I thought they were going to find him,\" Shelly said. \"I thought it was a mistake, he should be coming home.\" In Hagerstown, Caniford heard his name over the loudspeaker on the kill floor. \"I walked in the office, and when I turned around and saw these two Air Force people, my heart sank,\" he said. \"I thought, please don\'t tell me.\" \"Do you know why we\'re here?\" the woman asked. \"Tell me,\" Caniford said. \"Don\'t hold back.\" \"You\'re son\'s gunship was shot down,\" she said. \"We\'re searching for it.\" Everything went silent. Caniford saw her mouth moving, but boiling rage deafened him. \"I just looked at her and I got so angry,\" he recalled. \"I know it wasn\'t her fault, so I bit my tongue.\" When it was over, Caniford turned to walk away, then faced the pair again, fists clenching, teeth gritting, temper seething. The room was silent. \"I wouldn\'t have your job for all the cows in Texas,\" Caniford said, then stormed back to the kill floor. Caniford\'s boss followed to tell him to go home to his family. He was in such shock, he couldn\'t cry. \"It wasn\'t until I was in bed that night that the full impact hit me,\" he said. \"I just couldn\'t stop crying.\" Aftermath unfolds Over the next 30 years, the family pieced together much of what had happened to Jimmy on March 29, 1972. Early that morning, Jimmy joined 13 other airmen on board an AC-130 gunship on a mission in the heavily defended province of Savannakhet in southern Laos. Before takeoff, Jimmy shared a hot dog and a soda with Ken Felty, a crew member from another plane. Almost three decades later, Felty e-mailed Caniford to ask if he was related to the Sgt. James Kenneth Caniford he\'d flown with in Vietnam. \"This gentleman talked to Jimmy before he crashed,\" Caniford said. \"The things he had to tell me about Jimmy were great, but he was carrying a guilt complex because Jimmy\'s plane went down and his didn\'t.\" During that mission, three AC-130s flew together, escorted by an F-4E Phantom II. Something went wrong with Felty\'s plane, which was supposed to fly first in the formation. Jimmy\'s crew took the lead instead. About 3 a.m., the escort spotted three surface-to-air missiles. The first one just grazed the gunship, but the second one struck Jimmy\'s plane, which exploded in flight, the pieces tumbling to the ground. The escort didn\'t see any parachutes open. Wreckage burned on the ground. Search and rescue efforts continued for the next two days but found no sign of survivors. While the wreckage was visible from the air, enemy forces kept ground crews away. For Jimmy\'s family, that\'s when the wait started. Days turned into weeks with no word from the Air Force. Two months later, Caniford struggled to come to terms with losing his son. \"Jimmy was the son I always wanted,\" Caniford said. \"He wasn\'t perfect, but if I had five sons, I don\'t think any of them could have been any better than Jimmy was. I don\'t ever remember that boy committing a heartache.\" Caniford grew so numb with grief, he turned to the book \"On Death and Dying\" by Elisabeth Kubler-Ross. \"I was searching for answers and I couldn\'t find any,\" he said. \"In that book I found out what I was feeling was perfectly natural. I don\'t know if that woman knows how much she helped me.\" In 1986, a joint United States-Laos team excavated the crash site, recovering the remains of nine crew members. Jimmy\'s remains and those of four others were never found. That\'s made it almost impossible for Caniford to deal with his son\'s death. \"If they would have walked in and said, \'Your son was killed in action,\' I could deal with that; we would have buried him and have a place to visit him,\" said Caniford, now 82. \"But when you\'re in MIA status, there is never any closure. That\'s the most difficult part. We will die without knowing what happened to our son.\" When Shelly got the news, she shared that numbness. Over the years, anger consumed her. She grappled with her faith in God. During those times, she dreamed about Jimmy. Shelly always woke up from those dreams in a good mood. In the dreams, Jimmy was older. Shelly can\'t recall much of what happened in the dreams, but she found the sensation of being with her brother comforting. But living in Frederick was too painful. Everything reminded them of Jimmy. In 1974, the sisters packed their belongings into a trailer hitched to a red Volkswagen Beetle named Raquel and drove to Florida. Between them, they had saved about $200 to start a new life. About six years later, their parents followed. \"I was having a bad time of everything, trying to get my life in order,\" she said. \"I guess I just made all the wrong choices. I hit a pocket when everything was coming at me financially. I got divorced. Everything just fell apart.\" One night in 1997, Shelly woke up upset because she dreamt Jimmy was angry at her. That helped Shelly turn her life around. She started dating her current husband, Bill Noel. She also started a new career managing a medical office. \"I do take a lot of stock in dreams,\" Shelly said. \"That was my connection with Jimmy. As soon as I started doing what Jimmy wanted me to do, I was happy.\" The dreams stopped. She accepted Jimmy\'s fate, but she still misses dreaming about him. \"I believe my brother\'s at peace,\" she said. \"I know he died, but I hope he wasn\'t captured, because I don\'t think I could handle that. Knowing that he was in a prison for years, I couldn\'t handle that.\" Everything changed when Jimmy was shot down. The family moved out of Maryland. Shelly never had children. Jimmy never came home. For Shelly, the hardest thing for her to accept is never getting to know her brother. He joined the Air Force when she was 12. The last time she saw Jimmy was on her 18th birthday. Jimmy never got to know the good things Shelly accomplished as an adult. She worked for the FBI as a latent fingerprints specialist. Later, she shared her expertise with many police agencies for more than 20 years. Shelly occasionally reads the last letter she wrote to Jimmy, dated March 26, 1972. She can\'t explain why she didn\'t mail it the week Jimmy\'s plane went down. \"I have it and I read it because it\'s the last thing I wrote to him,\" she said. \"It\'s just something I have of his that\'s tangible because there isn\'t a lot - just toys in the attic and things that were Jimmy\'s.\" In the letter, she scolds Jimmy for not writing sooner. She\'s proud of her new job with the FBI. She wants her first car to be a Datsun. She loves and misses him. The last time she read it was in May. She keeps it in her Bible. For Caniford, the only thing that overshadows not knowing what happened to Jimmy is coming to terms with outliving his only son. He hopes people will understand such losses are not about war or politics. They\'re about people. \"You have to comprehend the immensity of what this does in a family\'s life,\" he said. \"The forgotten people in all of this are the wives, the brothers, the sisters. But I\'m not quite as made of steel as everyone thinks I am.\" POW Network: http://www.pownetwork.org/bios/c/c144.htm ~ Godspeed ~

In what manual do you see it is OK to restart if there is enough oil? If it was shut down for an emergency than it should be kept feathered! Plane flies great on two that\'s why it is practiced. Fly safe. Muff

Let\'s see a C117 do this....Got this off the AFA magazine site. Muff Just Another Day: The crew of a C-130 transport from Pope AFB, N.C., overcame the failure of two of the aircraft\'s four engines during a flight March 19 in Southwest Asia to safely deliver five wounded personnel to their destination. While in flight, the No. 2 engine began leaking oil and had to be shut down. About an hour later, the No. 3 engine began malfunctioning and eventually had to be turned off as well. As if that wasn\'t enough, the aircraft\'s autopilot, radar, and No. 1 compass system also went dead. But through it all the crew persevered and reached the destination, landing the C-130 without incident. \"While I have shutdown engines in flight before and regularly operate aircraft that have certain degraded capabilities, I have never faced such a compounded emergency before,\" said Capt. Steve Cheek of the 43rd Operations Support Squadron, who piloted the fateful mission. Amazingly the aircraft was fixed and flying the next day, albeit with a new No. 2 engine. (Pope report by 2nd Lt. Chris Hoyler)

Here is an article that was posted in the AFA news..... Brings back a lot of memories....good to see that the old bird is still flying... Muff Khe Sanh Veteran Back in Combat: The 746th Expeditionary Airlift Squadron, which has been supporting operations in Southwest Asia since February, recently added one more C-130 to its ranks: a 45-year-old C-130E known as Patches that arrived from Pope AFB, N.C. The aircraft, tail no. 62-1817, has a famous past that goes back to the 77-day battle of Khe Sanh in early 1968 during the Vietnam War. With overland supply of the embattled Marines impossible, Patches and her crew braved enemy fire to land and deliver much-needed supplies to the besieged outpost Feb. 5, 1968. The aircraft sustained substantial damage upon landing and taking off, but finished the mission. Pilot Lt. Col. Howard Dallman received the Air Force Cross for his efforts in leading the flight; all crew members received the Silver Star. \"I\'m proud to have her on our ramp,\" said Lt. Col. Daniel Tulley, 746th EAS commander, from Little Rock AFB, Ark. \"It gives our crewmembers and maintainers a sense of pride to know that one of their aircraft has been through something that significant.\" (USAF report by SrA. Tong Duong)

I\'m from old school, what is ESF? Muff:(

Looks like Hams to me. Hey Talon remember the cases of Schlutz in the rusty cans? That was real rot gut. Muff

There was another incident at Pope that caused the loss of a Herk. It was in 1970 RTU night drop and a fighter doing a simulated straffing low level pass on the drop zone pulled up right under the Herk. Instant crash. I do not remember the crew exept for the FE a class mate of mine at Sewart SSgt Billy Warr. Muff

Bob, I may be able to help you. A few years ago I purchased a set of Herk plans off EBay and never got around to building....too bust building a home. Email your e-mail address and I will talk off board with you [email protected] What is the scale of your bird? Muff

\"I can see where it would be quite an assett in the \"real world,\" Do you mean ASS SETIE ? Muff

Check out this web site for the latest info on the Boing laser http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/22975 Very interesting. Muff

No sweat John, I knew you ment no harm. You never know who\'s looking at these pages. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving. Muff

Don\'t they teach security procedures any more??? Oh, thats right, retire become a consultant and all bets are off any make big bucks. Muff

Bob or others anyone got any information on the location of C-130E 62-1788? It was at CCK then went to Pope and Little Rock in 1999. Is it still alive and well or has it been shipped off to the grave yard. It is the acft that we took into Dalat Cam Lai the last day of the war and got mortored. The plane was wounded really bad but it got us all home safe. Just wondering what the old gal was doing these days. Thanks for any info. Muff Millen