bobdaley Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I had some stats on Herk safety in the ANG/AFRC. I counted 9 units with over 40 years of accident free flying, and a lot more with spotless records. So I decided to try the same for active duty units. I was looking up info and ran into some questions can anyone help? I think I remember 36AS was a 141 squadron from 1989 to 1993? When did 79 RQS first get Herks? It was the only Herk Sq not in the squadron history listings at AF Historical Research? Has 50AS been accident free since 1972? Has 67SOS been accident free since it got Herks in 1965? Has 53AS been accident free since it got Herks in 1993? Is 517 AS still an Associate SQ at Elmendorf? Back in 1969, 65-0990 an HC-130H was lost off Taiwan. Every place I have looked said it was from the 57ARRS, but the 57ARRS was at Lajes at the time. I guess it could have been TDY but just wondering? Any help would be appreciated Thanks Bob BTW right now it looks like 67SOS has been accident free for 48 years, all the rest of the active squadrons are 30 years or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfManJ Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Bob, can't help you with the squadron timelines, but I'm curious where you get the mishap data. Recently I tried to get some stats from the Air Force Safety Center with no luck. They publish Class A mishaps data on their website, but I was looking for more minor mishaps, like Class B and C. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llecrupwt Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Do tell Bob, what AFRC/ANG units have the best safety record in the Herk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I think I remember 36AS was a 141 squadron from 1989 to 1993? Bob, From the AF Historical Research Agency web site: Aircraft. C-47, 1942-1946; C-82, 1946-1950; C-119, 1950-1957. C-130, 1966-1968. C-130, 1968-1989; C-141, 1989-1993; C-130, 1993-. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Don Thanks that is what I thought. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 The nine units with over 40 years were: 115AS CA ANG 43 years C130A,B,E,J 96AS AFRC MN 42years C130A,E,H 109AS MN ANG 42 years C130A,E,H 139AS NY ANG 42 years C130A,D,D6,H,LC130H 142AS DE ANG 42 years C130A,H 328AS AFRC NY 42 years C130A,E,H 187AS WY ANG 41 years C130B,H 815AS AFRC MS 40 years C130A,B,WC130E,WC130H,C130E, C130J 711 SOS which recently gave up their MC-130E's had 42 years Along the same line of the remaining Guard and Reserve Herk units only 5 have had accidents: 95 AS 2 both in Honduras 731AS, 154TRS, 156AS, 165AS one each Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 The mishap data came from the AF Safety Center and Lars Olausson's book. The only accident data I got from AFSC was about class A accidents. Over a Million dollars damage or loss of life. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Bob, I'm not at all surprised that ANG/AFRC herc units have outstanding safety records. When I was assigned at Hqs. TAC, part of my job was assistance visits to guard/reserve units converting to C-130Es. Prior to this time I'd had little exposure to these units and like many active duty guys, had little regard for Reserve Component units. That quickly changed as I traveled to the different units. I was repeatedly impressed with the condition of their airplanes and the professionalism of the troops assigned. In one unit I met a crew chief that had been on the same aircraft for ten years. In another I saw two pilots with white hair and weathered faces. It appeared they had been flying since Mitchell and probably had a zillion hours. Further, for the most part, unit facilities were top notch. Better, in many cases, than active duty units. It's been a long time, and most units were very good, but the California Guard unit then at Van Nuys stands out in my memory as outstanding. I think they were just greatly relieved to get rid of their C-97s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addison Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I had some stats on Herk safety in the ANG/AFRC. I counted 9 units with over 40 years of accident free flying, and a lot more with spotless records. So I decided to try the same for active duty units. I was looking up info and ran into some questions can anyone help? I think I remember 36AS was a 141 squadron from 1989 to 1993? When did 79 RQS first get Herks? It was the only Herk Sq not in the squadron history listings at AF Historical Research? Has 50AS been accident free since 1972? Has 67SOS been accident free since it got Herks in 1965? Has 53AS been accident free since it got Herks in 1993? Is 517 AS still an Associate SQ at Elmendorf? Back in 1969, 65-0990 an HC-130H was lost off Taiwan. Every place I have looked said it was from the 57ARRS, but the 57ARRS was at Lajes at the time. I guess it could have been TDY but just wondering? Any help would be appreciated Thanks Bob BTW right now it looks like 67SOS has been accident free for 48 years, all the rest of the active squadrons are 30 years or less. Hello Bob, I was thinking of 0990 today it being Memorial Day 2014. She was from the 31st ARRS out of Clark AB,PI. Lt Col George Pinyard was the squadron commander,Captain Giles Gray was the AC commander,there were 14 on board and 13 were lost, one PJ survived. I have a crash report buried away that I can access later if you desire. At the time I was a AGE Sgt in the squadron, and remember the day quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 Thanks, any info you have would be appreciated. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atouk Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Bob, The 50 AS had a fatal accident in I think Feb of '79. We lost our Squadron Commander. This was a result of a throttle cable failure. Remember, all Herks were grounded until checked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkman Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 The original Australian c130 squadron no 36 squadron with over 500,000 hours on 12 airframes, no accidents since 1958. Coupled to 37 squadron who from 1965 have almost another 400,000 hours accident free ,on 12 airframes too. We were taught good by the USAF exchange pilots two at least have gone to herky heaven. A great job by our maintainers coupled to an excellent aircraft.. Regards Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 RAAF has a great record to be proud of. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Atouk, I could not find one in Feb of 79, but I did find 68-10951 on 10 Dec 78 with a LCol Hodge as the pilot. The accident was at Ft Campbell. Cause was a throttle cable. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atouk Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I guess my memory was off slightly. I will never forget that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.Bearden Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 On 5/25/2014 at 5:18 PM, addison said: Hello Bob, I was thinking of 0990 today it being Memorial Day 2014. She was from the 31st ARRS out of Clark AB,PI. Lt Col George Pinyard was the squadron commander,Captain Giles Gray was the AC commander,there were 14 on board and 13 were lost, one PJ survived. I have a crash report buried away that I can access later if you desire. At the time I was a AGE Sgt in the squadron, and remember the day quite well. Was at McGuire for HC-130 training after Tech School with orders for Clark and the 31st ARRS in January/February, 1969, when this accident happened...the PJ who survived eventually came back to the 31st and resumed duties there...an amazing story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.Bearden Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 On 6/8/2013 at 3:07 PM, bobdaley said: I had some stats on Herk safety in the ANG/AFRC. I counted 9 units with over 40 years of accident free flying, and a lot more with spotless records. So I decided to try the same for active duty units. I was looking up info and ran into some questions can anyone help? I think I remember 36AS was a 141 squadron from 1989 to 1993? When did 79 RQS first get Herks? It was the only Herk Sq not in the squadron history listings at AF Historical Research? Has 50AS been accident free since 1972? Now Closed Has 67SOS been accident free since it got Herks in 1965? Has 53AS been accident free since it got Herks in 1993? Now Closed Is 517 AS still an Associate SQ at Elmendorf? Now Closed Back in 1969, 65-0990 an HC-130H was lost off Taiwan. Every place I have looked said it was from the 57ARRS, but the 57ARRS was at Lajes at the time. I guess it could have been TDY but just wondering? Any help would be appreciated Thanks Bob BTW right now it looks like 67SOS has been accident free for 48 years, all the rest of the active squadrons are 30 years or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbie Stroud Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 9/2/2016 at 0:48 PM, David.Bearden said: Was at McGuire for HC-130 training after Tech School with orders for Clark and the 31st ARRS in January/February, 1969, when this accident happened...the PJ who survived eventually came back to the 31st and resumed duties there...an amazing story... RIP: SSgt. Carlton E. Stroud (Feb 7, 1938 - Feb 5, 1969) 65-0990 off Taiwan. How can I obtain a copy of the crash report? Sept 7, 2017. Copy has been received! Thank you, Debbie Stroud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted August 2, 2017 Author Share Posted August 2, 2017 Best p;lace to start ids AF Safety Center at Kirtland AFB NM. You might try Jose Gonzalez there his phone is 505-853-8794 Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Are you considering as an accident Class A mishap only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATOPS1 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Can anyone provide a link to or copy of the accident report for 68-10951 that crashed on 10 Dec 78 Any other data (reports/ accounts) on Throttle Cable Failures would be greatly appreciated as well. Especially interested in any reports of Reverse blade angle encountered in flight and or blade separation. Thank You!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 yes Class A mishaps Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Andrew Bechyne Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 On 8/1/2017 at 3:40 PM, Debbie Stroud said: RIP: SSgt. Carlton E. Stroud (Feb 7, 1938 - Feb 5, 1969) 65-0990 off Taiwan. How can I obtain a copy of the crash report? Sept 7, 2017. Copy has been received! Thank you, Debbie Stroud My father SSgt Walter E Bechyne was also a casualty of this crash, I too would like to obtain a copy of the crash report. What little knowledge I have of my father and this incident is that he was assigned to HH-3s in some capacity or another but volunteered for this mission to serve as a spotter. I would greatly appreciate any information anyone can share with me that I can use to bring him and the other lost airman to life for my young children. Thank You, W. Andrew Bechyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.