Robert Podboy Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The NATIONAL MUSEUM OF THE US AIR FORCE has added COCKPIT 360 IMAGES for LOCKHEED C-130E HERCULESPilot StationCopilot StationFlight Deck OverviewForward Cargo AreaAft Cargo Areahttp://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/VirtualTour/Cockpit360.aspx http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/090/C-130E%20Flight%20Deck%20Overview.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Robert,Thanks for sharing this. It was almost like going back in time for me.Sonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yep, like going back in time... I remember where all the "stuff" goes. One question: on the cargo door, the space behind the ground loading ramps - was that where the truck loading ramps were stored, or the ladders for the troop doors?? Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPTestFE Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Looks like the CP & FE left their oxygen on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Podboy Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) A bit about the aircraft:Storied C-130E Goes to USAF MuseumAuthor Stephen Mauro 1/19/2012Caldwell was on approach to the drop zone at An Loc when groundfire smashed into Spare 617‘s fuselage, instantly killing the flight engineer.The C-130E SPARE 617 touches down at the National Museum of the US Air Force, capping off a storied career.Caldwell was on approach to the drop zone at An Loc when groundfire smashed into Spare 617‘s fuselage, instantly killing the flight engineer.Last August Spare 617, a C-130E boasting an impressive career, entered the collection of the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force in Dayton, Ohio. The well-worn Hercules, No. 62-1787, had come a long way since April 1972, when the intelligence officer at Tan Son Nhut Air Base briefed its pilot, Captain William Caldwell, and his crew on their mission to the besieged city of An Loc, South Vietnam. Caldwell, who was told, “You’re going to have 37mm anti-aircraft fire coming at you,” remembers asking, “How high does that go?” The reply was succinct: “Above you.”Caldwell has never forgotten that harrowing airdrop. He was on approach to the drop zone when groundfire smashed into Spare 617’s fuselage and cockpit, instantly killing flight engineer Tech. Sgt. Jon Sanders and wounding several others. The fusillade ruptured an air bleed duct, causing superheated air to spew into the cargo hold, and setting ammo pallets ablaze. Loadmaster Tech. Sgt. Charlie Shaub called for Caldwell or his copilot to electronically jettison the load. When that failed, Shaub braved the scalding air to cut loose the pallets—two of which exploded just after leaving the airplane. Shaub then grabbed a red-hot fire extinguisher and doused a fire in the left wheel well. Caldwell and Shaub later received the Air Force Cross.Spare 617 was repaired and returned to service, later flying with various Air National Guard squadrons. Colonel Caldwell, who was on hand for the August 18 ceremony honoring No. 62-1787’s installation in the museum, had his own take on the meaning of the festivities: “We had a crew and I included in that crew the airplane, so I saw it more as a retirement ceremony for the plane.” Currently on display on a runway, Spare 617 joins two AC-130 gunships already in the NMUSAF collection. It will eventually be housed in the Global Reach Gallery in a new building, slated for completion in 2014. Edited October 27, 2015 by Robert Podboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rw605 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Stopped by Wright Pat on a road trip 2 years ago, and took these photos. Thanks for sharing the story. Edited October 28, 2015 by rw605 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Podboy Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 A previous post 62-1787/spare 617Started by SamMcGowan, 1 Jul 2009details more about the aircraft history. http://www.c-130hercules.net/forums/topic/2840-62-1787spare-617/ - comment-6602 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Robert Podboy,I have been back to the 360 Images site several times since you posted it. I get lost in thought/memories going through that E model. I was the ACC on an E model (63-7872) while at McGuire before going to Okinawa and becoming the Crew Chief of two different A models (56-0489 & 56-0533).Thanks again and again.Sonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Podboy Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Yea, I like the view form the pilots window of the A model parked next door. It would be cool if they would do 360 views of the A so we could compare knobs and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olcatmech2 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Like that idea too, Robert! I was a B model maintainer but there was something about the A's that I always liked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Where did you work on B's? I flew them at New Orleans, Kelly and Dallas.Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Hey oldcatmechanic2, funny you should say that cause I was an "A" model maintainer and there was something about "B's" I always liked...such as an aux pump and ground test valve and NO danged 450 gal external fuel tanks that were forever giving trouble and a galley with hot coffee containers and oven and best of all a flight deck BUNK! This was my first Herk assignment (1963) and I later got to serve on the Herks with all the other letters the C-130 had next to it...and LOVED every one of them!! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GVS Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Off topic here but a question for the guys that held down the left or right front seats.Of all the basic models(A,B,E,H,J)which was the best flyer as far as handling is concerned?My only experience is on A's but I've heard the B's were the sweetest flyers.Back on topic,the wife bought me a "T" shirt with a photo of the pilot's,engine instrument and co pilot's panel from an A model on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I flew B, E, K 's. I liked the B best. Flight controls were absolutely the best.K's had the best power. K and E had good flight instruments, but overall I think the B flew the best.Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olcatmech2 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) I worked on the B's when Charlotte Air guard had them and I was full time there for 20+ years. Retired prior to them getting the Hmodel. Loved the sound of the A's with no LSGI when they were taxing. At least that what I was told as to why they sounded different.And I heard from several of the flying types that the B was the hot rod of the C130's Edited October 31, 2015 by olcatmech2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Back on topic,the wife bought me a "T" shirt with a photo of the pilot's,engine instrument and co pilot's panel from an A model on it.GVS,Where did your wife find such a gem? I would love to have one of those T-shirts.Sonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GVS Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I flew B, E, K 's. I liked the B best. Flight controls were absolutely the best.K's had the best power. K and E had good flight instruments, but overall I think the B flew the best.BobThats just what I was told way back when.I always thought it was because of no pylon tanks hanging off the wing.If either the tank or pylon isn't dead parallel with the A/C center line,gotta crank in more trim.My thoughts anyway,could be all wrong. Most "A"s flew quite well,some fairly well but there was one that,while very reliable,(had an excellent crew chief) needed both rudder and aileron trim .Division test pilot ,after 2 FCFs, and taking a hard look at the whole A/C,shrugged his shoulders and said "I don't know,maybe the wing's bent"! , , I worked on the B's when Charlotte Air guard had them and I was full time there for 20+ years. Retired prior to them getting the Hmodel. Loved the sound of the A's with no LSGI when they were taxing. At least that what I was told as to why they sounded different.And I heard from several of the flying types that the B was the hot rod of the C130'sIf the "A"s you worked on still had the 3 blade props,they had a quite different sound than the 4 bladers. Sonny ,I'll have to get back to you as to where the "T" shirt came from.Standby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 The externals added weight and drag, but as I remember, only 30 years ago, the B's had full boost hydraulic pressure to the flight controls and the E's were deboosted, don't know if that is a word, but had lower pressure to the flight controls because of stress caused by the externals.Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GVS Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 GVS,Where did your wife find such a gem? I would love to have one of those T-shirts.SonnySonny,google zazzle.com and enter c130 t shirts in the search box.Many to choose from.There's even a grasshopper nose,APS 42 "A" model in there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPTestFE Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Bob, you are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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