bobdaley Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Being out of the loop for so long, it is hard to keep up on the USAF changes. There have been lots of changes in the Herk community lately. Associate units at Cheyenne, Elmendorf and Pete have closed and their UE reduced to 8. 327 AS at LRF has closed or almost closed and the last I heard, they went from 17 to 2 Herks. The Guard and Reserve have been shuffling Herks to put similar model Herks in the same units. The older H2's have started to retire to the Boneyard. They are threatening to close the 95 AS and 2 AS at Pope again, and I just read a proposal to try to bring C-17's to Pitt to replace the Herks. From what I have been able to find I have tried to come up with a new Herk Inventory. I think I can attach it and would appreciate any corrections. I just updated the file with the latest info from the USCG. As Casey said below to see the inventory, just click on all herks 20 below. Thanks Bob All Herks 20.xls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railrunner130 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The idea of C-17s replacing Herks also was explored at Savannah and Texas. Not sure exactly how many other units were looked at and I'm not sure how far any of it evolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 It the Pittsburgh case it sounds more like politicians talking? How did the list look? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkaminsk Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Bob, 2009 will be the first to be missionized by L-3 in Waco rather than LMCO in Greenville. It'll be the first to get the Minotaur Mission Management System (MSS+) in mid-2016. 2007 and 2008 are in Greenville and will be delivered in 2016. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Tom Thanks Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPTestFE Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Bob, 4856 belongs to the 186AS now. Flew it to LRF for new tail flash & ISO on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 Thanks a lot . I'll update the list. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 BTW, the list includes my latest update on the USN/USMC Herks. Note it looks like all the KC-130T's are gone from Carswell and they have so far received 5 J's Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Bob, where is this inventory at. I would like to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Dutch said: Bob, where is this inventory at. I would like to see it. Click "All Herks 20" above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHeflin Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Bob, Request clarification on some of your abbreviations (WFU, etc). Also, you list HC-130Hs with an (N), but HC-Hs converted to AR tankers were originally designated as Ps. I know things changed a few years ago and they re-designated things to line up. Otherwise great job and your hard work is much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 Hi Mark WFU- Withdrawn from use, could be restored to flying status W/O Write off usually from an accident B/U Broken Up- parts of it maybe around but it is too far gone to fly again, or it was scrapped Gnd Tnr- used as a trainer-not flyable-maybe partially broken up. AMARC or AMARG the boneyard at DM. Originally there were HC-130H's then HC-130P's some of the HC-130H's were converted to HC-130P's. Then HC-130N's came along in 1969 Much later around 1988, the ANG wanted more Rescue Herks, Robins in its infinite wisdom named them HC-130H(N) later it was changed to just HC-130N. There were 6 of them, four for Elmendorf and 2 for Suffolk County. Besides becoming HC-130P's some of the HC-130H's became WC-130H's, EC-130H's, MC-130P's, NC-130H, TC-130H and a DC-130H. Not to mention when they were first built there were JHC-130H's and a JHC-130P for testing and snatch birds. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Thanks Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 BTW, I updated the inventory above (all herks 20), I have pretty accurate USAF, USCG, USMC/USN info but would really appreciate any updates or corrections on non US Herks. Thanks again Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSPFE Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Where did all the H's go from Little Rock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 scattered all over, if you mean the 50th 8 went to Dobbins, the other 6 were scattered about. You can sort the above list by tail number if you want. bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 From the above Coast Guard rumors. USCG has 6 J's at Elizabeth City, 3 more not fully upgraded probably go to Kodiak. Sacramento and Clearwater are to lose Herks and get C-27's. If USCG parks 2 more at AMARG this year and gives 5 more to USFS, they will only have 12 H's left. Probably keep them flying until they get enough J's bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1dp Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I've read on the USCG HQ sites that the end plan is 22 J models to replace the old "H" fleet. A few years back, the plan was to upgrade 16 total of the existing "H" models with center wing repairs, avionics updates and glass instrument panels, Selex sea search radar, etc. For the "H", the Nav and Eng will remain. Probably 2025 retirement now for the "H" models that remain. Depends on how many "J" come our way. It will be interesting to see how well the HC-27J fits in. Seems to be a good twin turboprop with longer legs,and a bigger belly than the HC-144A CASA 235. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railrunner130 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 It seems to me that the C-27J will only be a stop-gap airplane until C-130Js or something else can be procured. The reason USAF was able to rid of them is because there's no PDM cycle developed for them and they didn't want to spend the cash. The C-27J going to other organizations doesn't fix this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 For the USCG, the C-27 were free, they'll probably keep them a long time. For the USAF, they never really wanted them, they just did not want the Army to have them, just like the Caribou. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Darn, Bob, you took the words right out of my mouth. I'm thinking the C-27 will do a great job for the USCG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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