NATOPS1 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Looking for date of incident and details if avalible... Thanks. (NOT PROP 1) that "box" is not on the original picture... Not sure how it got there...???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Don't have answers to your questions NATOPS, but the acft. appears to be a Compass Call bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Here is the story I have been told: Flight was DM to Loring, but over Vermont (I think 27,000'), without any warning, #3 didn't like one of its reduction gearbox gears and kicked it outboard to #4. That broke the blade on #4 and cause what you see. #3 prop assembly didn't like being on an airplane anymore and departed the A/C. It was found about a week later in VT or NH, where it actually cut down a 3-4 inch tree like a chain saw (former CC was given a Hercules chainsaw trophy of the tree). 23 minutes later we were safely on the ground at Pease where we conveniently shut down a SAC base & runway for 3-4 hours while the brakes cooled, until Grill could yank 'em off. Safety guys figured out, by listening to the cockpit voice recorder, that when this happened #3 oversped, tried to correct itself, then disintegrated. Took about a 1/2 sec for all this. If this happened the next day we would have been an hour or so from any terra ferma. And yes, it is a Compass Call bird. Tail number 73-1592. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1dp Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 This came up before on the forums; http://www.c-130hercules.net/showthread.php?t=2789 At least four aircraft that suffered from bad gearboxes. CG 1706: We had another Barbers Point C-130, I think one of the 1600s that had a gearbox crack and the prop droop forward a bit, but no departure. Thankfully, it stayed in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Here's AC-130A 55-0044 (3071) from the gallery in Ubon in 3/72. According to Lars' book, #4 gearbox disintegrated and took out #3. It also took out #2 (you can see the feathered #2 prop in photo #1). They landed on one engine. It was repaired but later shot down over Laos by a SA-7. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llecrupwt Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Here's a picture of the prop in the woods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizzard Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Here's AC-130A 55-0044 (3071) from the gallery in Ubon in 3/72. According to Lars' book, #4 gearbox disintegrated and took out #3. It also took out #2 (you can see the feathered #2 prop in photo #1). They landed on one engine. It was repaired but later shot down over Laos by a SA-7. Don R. Kinda breaking the thread a bit, but I have a question.........It seems to me that the SA-7, at least in the Nam, was named " Strella." That is what I can remember, and my patch that says "SA-7 Flight Examiner " has that as well, I think. However I was readin' something a while back, and they called it "Grail", any thoughts??? giz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Giz, I may be wrong (and if I am, I'm sure someone here will quickly correct me), but I think "Strela" was the Russian name and "Grail" was the NATO designation. Or maybe it was the other way around. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llecrupwt Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 The 9K32 “Strela-2” (Russian 9К32 “Cтрела-2” — arrow; NATO reporting name SA-7 Grail)....wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizzard Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 The 9K32 “Strela-2†(Russian 9К32 “Cтрела-2†— arrow; NATO reporting name SA-7 Grail)....wikipedia Ah, my fevered mind is eased.. thanks, guys giz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbob Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The crew chief(that was aboard) from the Compass Call incident later retrained to be an FE. He was my student when he went through the 16 TATS. Can't even remember his name anymore. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEC130 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Most of you are correct, however we (yes I was the FE on the plane) were going to Bangor Maine to RON. The next day we were scheduled to depart for England. This incident happened over upper New York, and yes it was inflight. Gear Box came apart at 22,000ft if I remember correctly, happened in September 1988/89 (long time ago). Took out number 4 engine. Did a two engine landing at Pease AFB. Melted the right brakes stopping the airplane. That’s the short story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Most of you are correct, however we (yes I was the FE on the plane) were going to Bangor Maine to RON. The next day we were scheduled to depart for England. This incident happened over upper New York, and yes it was inflight. Gear Box came apart at 22,000ft if I remember correctly, happened in September 1988/89 (long time ago). Took out number 4 engine. Did a two engine landing at Pease AFB. Melted the right brakes stopping the airplane. That’s the short story. And a lot of bricks were shat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railrunner130 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Rightfully so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Most of you are correct, however we (yes I was the FE on the plane) were going to Bangor Maine to RON. FEC130, Do you remember the AC's name? I was stationed with him in the 37th at Rhein Main -- along with Bill Speice. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Looking for date of incident and details if avalible... Thanks. (NOT PROP 1) that "box" is not on the original picture... Not sure how it got there...???? Here's a link to a bunch of pictures of the aircraft. Crew was damn lucky that a lot more damage didn't happen and there could have been a lot worse end to this. http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/FTFFTW/library/Herk/Scratch%20and%20Dent%20Sale/73%201592%20EC%20H%20with%20thrown%20prop?start=all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEC130 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/FTFFTW/library/Herk/Scratch%20and%20Dent%20Sale/73%201592%20EC%20H%20with%20thrown%20prop?start=all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEC130 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Got that right. Had to throw that flight suit away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEC130 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 TJ KING AND EVAN SMITH WERE THE PILOTS. LOST TOUCH WITH THEM OVER THE YEARS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC10FE Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Thanks, FEC130 If I remember correctly, Tom King showed up at Rhein Main as a captain from Little Rock. A great guy to fly with. I ran into him at DM back in 1988 when I was putting together an A-model at the Western International salvage yard. I think he was a major then. Don R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATOPS1 Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Thanks "Someone" I work with talked to the Nav.... Gearbox flux led to this, thats what he says. Any truth to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wilson Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The main gear (driven from the pinon gear, cant remember the right name for it right now) in the gearbox busted into three pieces, ruptured the gearbox letting the #3 prop leave the airplane. One of the bits from the the #3 main gear flew over and chopped #1 blade of #4 prop in-half resulting in 29 MILLION (estimated) inch pounds of unbalanced force and twisted the prop over into the wing easy as can be. (my squadron, 7th ACCS did the accident investigation on this one). different aircraft but another gearbox failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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