APG85 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Does anyone have a picture of the stand (metal frame) that goes up under the left side of the rear fuselage and contacts the hard-point on the belly band (picture of the hard-point below)...? Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1dp Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Isn't that the anode slug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyclark Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I honestly can't remember ever seeing one, but I am a pointy head. Kind of odd that there's only one on the left side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Is this what you are looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APG85 Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 No, that's the wooden "Milkstool" that support the ramp when it is in the air-drop position for heavy loading. I'm looking for the metal framed support stand that would mate-up with the hard point on the left side of the belly band as shown in my original picture. I've seen drawings of it in the IPB but I don't remember ever seeing an actual stand or a picture of it in use. Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 The round anode is NOT a hard point! It is an anti-corrosion device similar to those used on a ship to help ward off corrosion to the hull. This is not a load bearing point. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyclark Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 After finding it, it is listed in the books as a Ramp Closure Pad. I cannot find anything in the books about using it. 338677 98897 . . PAD, RAMP CLOSURE It is even called that name in the part drawing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APG85 Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 Pretty sure it's a hard-point...designed to mate up with a support stand. The stand had an angled head on it that aligned with the angle of the contour of the disc. I could be wrong though. If it's an "anti-corrosion devise"...it's not working on most Hercs! Interesting discussion. I'll dig in the books this week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyclark Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Why the heck do you want it? Just more equipment inspections to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyclark Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Maybe this? I think the current method is putting weight behind FS245, but I could be wrong. From 1C-130A-2-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I'm guessing this piece is only on later acft. (post 64s) as I don't remember ever seeing it or using it. Seems to me if it were an aft fuselage support point it would have a corresponding support on the opposite side or instead be mounted on the centerline. Discerning people want to know. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APG85 Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 That's it! Thanks. Why do I want it? I've got a problem with a light Herc (static) trying to do a wheelie when it snows. This is a potential quick solution... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I'd say Tiny has hit the nail on the head. And I've gained a bit of new Herk. knowledge. I'm guessing that stand, in the units that have it/can find it is just like brand new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 As Tiny posted earlier, when we had an acft. down for maintenance and the cg was such there was concern with it tipping onto the tail skid we would load a pallet (don't remember how much weight) in the number one position. Probably not what the tech data specifies in such a situation but it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyclark Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Before removing engine, check wing weight (fuel) distributed and assure sufficient clearance is maintained under wing section in case aircraft settles when engine is removed. If more than one engine is removed from an airplane, install the aft fuselage blocking support (figure 9-5) before removing the second engine. The support is installed on a mounting pad beneath the fuselage at F.S. 737.0. If this is not compiled with the airplane will tip on its tail. This is from the 130-B-2-4. I'm done. As the Germans say, "Viel Spass", much fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyclark Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Larry, the part drawing is from 1957. Like I said, I don't ever remember seeing it, but I guess they are there. Scott, can't you just park a pet rock on the forward floor? I wonder if there are any available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APG85 Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 Pet rock is an option. The problem is getting one and getting it on the plane. The support stand is simple, quick and easy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Scott, you are the man. I'm sure when you raised the subject the troops were thinking, what the hell is the Chief talking about. And today, thanks to you and tiny, I learned something I never knew. Perhaps, in my day, although I was a by the book troop I didn't pay as much attention to tech data as I thought I did. As I think back perhaps when I came to the unit they were loading a pallet and it worked so well no one, including me, thought to check tech data. I see your assigned to the 1st SOW so if your talking about a gunship or talon it's pretty tough to place a pallet in the number one position. Now the real question is, can a stand be found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) Scott, the aft fuselage support shown in the earlier post goes under the "Tail Skid" not on the anti-corrosion anode i.e." ramp closure pad". I installed that part on the Herk in the mid 80's at Lockheed. It is only screwed to thin sheet metal formers on top of the "belly band". It ain't a load bearing point. The tail skid is. The milk stool some folks mixed it up with, went under the aft end of the ramp while loading from a K Loader or fork lift. Bill :) Edited June 16, 2014 by Spectre623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 My 2 cents - There is no sacrificial anode on the aircraft and the part in question (#338677) is a support pad designed to distribute and transmit the load to the FS 737 bulkhead cap assembly. The pad is made of magnesium and corrodes readily which is why some over the years have assumed it is an anode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyclark Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Agreed gmac, it's quite beefy. The part was changed to A356 T-6 aluminum later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Agreed gmac, it's quite beefy. The part was changed to A356 T-6 aluminum later on. I'm convinced. Lots of enlightenment going on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry myers Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Informed words from Napa. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyclark Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Enlightenment going on for me too. They don't pay me enough now to spend two hours (or so) on this. I do enjoy a challenge, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre623 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 GMAC, one more question and I'm off this thread...why were there 2 different dash numbers on the pad? There was one for the military Herks with the piss tubes that dumped overboard and a different one for the L-100's which used piss cans. I was told by the folks that trained me at Lockheed it was a sacrificial anode and that is why it corrodes so easily. So, from your knowledge base what was the pad for? And what did you ever use it for? In over 30 years on the Herk I have never seen this pad used nor have used it for anything. Bill P.S. I love a good discussion like this about old HERK !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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