herkman Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 My understanding that the USAF and VNAF left behind some A models at TSN. My understanding is that some were deliberately destroyed and some left in a derelict condition. Does any one have a list of the ones left and the fate of the rest now gone. Thanks Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Col There were 6 there last I heard. All derelict. You could see them on Google Earth. I have not seen a good list of which ones were there. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talon161475 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 tsn ,do u mean tan son nhat international airport,i was tryingt o find on google earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Google Earth shows 7, imagery date 24 Feb 2006. Coordinates: 10 48'31.72"N 106 39'32.64"E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenmonster Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 There were 6 there last I heard. All derelict. You could see them on Google Earth. There is also at least 3 sam sites in the photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I was told the following A's are at TSN, but I have not confirmed them 55-0001, 55-0005, 55-0013, 56-0476, 56-0482, 56-0519, 56-0532. Any one got any pictures? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkman Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share Posted April 10, 2010 So in 2006 there were seven aircraft there. 55-0001 55-0005 55-0013 56-0476 56-0482 56-0519 56-0532 Now there appear to be five, I wonder what the fate was of the missing two. Too far gone to be brought back to flying, particularly with the known three bladed prop problem. Regards Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZHill Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 How about 56-489? RZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talon161475 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 There were 6 there last I heard. All derelict. You could see them on Google Earth. There is also at least 3 sam sites in the photo. i found the aircraft on google earth what u mena sam sites, u mean missle sites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenmonster Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 i found the aircraft on google earth what u mena sam sites, u mean missle sites SAM sites are circled. close to due north of the Herks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talon161475 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 cool thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Pilot Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 I realize that we're getting far, far away from Herk-dom, but these "SAM" or "missile" sites are actually AAA sites. Probably 85mm KS-12 or -18 or 100mm KS-19. Left/lower one seems to still be occupied. PUAZO in center with cables going out to guns. Radar, either SON-9 (Fire Can) or RPK-1 (Flap Wheel) in revetment at 2:00, outside ring of guns. 1. While these have same general layout as S-75 (SA-2) they lack the daisy-chain roads for the reload trucks. They also lack the more extensive revetments at the center of the site for the SNR-75 radar and its associated (6 or 7) trailers 2. Google "SAM Site Overview" and download the SAMSITE OVERVIEW KMZ for Google Earth for more on this. 3. Returning to all things C-130, the Soviets hauled F-5s out of VN for exploitation, wonder if they took any of the -130s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEFEGeorge Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 F-5s out of VN sure brought back some memories. Back in '72 while I was stationed at Kelly as part of a RAM team. We were called out in the middle of the night and loaded onto a C-5. Stopped at Charleston, Spain, and then Iran. We were assigned to tear down and crate up the Shaw's F-5As and ship them to VN. The Shaw was getting F-5E's to replace them, courtesy of the USA. Spent 9 days there, restricted to base, working 12 hour shifts, to complete the job. We came home and someone else put back them back together in VN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 F-5s out of VN sure brought back some memories. Back in '72 while I was stationed at Kelly as part of a RAM team. We were called out in the middle of the night and loaded onto a C-5. Stopped at Charleston, Spain, and then Iran. We were assigned to tear down and crate up the Shaw's F-5As and ship them to VN. The Shaw was getting F-5E's to replace them, courtesy of the USA. Spent 9 days there, restricted to base, working 12 hour shifts, to complete the job. We came home and someone else put back them back together in VN. Hey! I was there too! I was with the 5th Aerial Port Squadron out of RAF Mildenhall, England. We were called out on no warning type deployment. We took the palletized F5s and loaded them on the C5s.. as I remember, there were two wings on one married pallet and the fuselages were each on a married pallet. I think we put 4 F5s on each C5 . . We did get taken off base one day for a tourist type look around - but like you, we were restricted to the base the rest of the time... The good side of the tdy was we got an AF Commendation Medal for it -- the bad? Well, I had a nice Irish girl that I had just met staying with me, and when we got back, alas, she was gone.. sigh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Davenport Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 1977 I was one of two pilots that took 7 T-38's to Portugal for Project Peace Talon. The plan was to fly them over thu Goose, Tully etc in formation with a T-39 for navigation. During the briefing with the ATC General a smart ass loggie type said we take the wing off F-5's load them on C-5's & a T-38 is just a small F-5. I could have killed him on the spot! So that's what happened. After the birds were painted at Webb. We flew them to Kelly loaded up a C-5 with our birds, AGE equipment the RAM team and with one air refueling landed in Torrejon Spain to crew rest. The plan was to fly the C-5 to Lisbon in the morning for a big PR event put together one of the T-38's a FCF it that afternoon. Departure time for Lisbon came and the C-5 had some problem with "kneeling" and would be able to raise the gear. I said can't you fly it over gear down? Calls to the MAC Hq for approval. Long story we get to Lisbon late and the Wx is doggie popoo. We meet and greet all the DV's while the C-5 is unloaded and everything put in the hanger. That afternoon the RAM team rolls out the first bird for a picture shoot but no flying wx still sucked. The next day we did the FCF -- burner climb to 410 after takeoff switched to ATC asked to call out of 5000 we reported our of 10,000 so switched freq's and asked to report out of 20,000 we reported level at 410. Great next 9 months flying with some great Portuguese pilots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzferrari Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 i found the aircraft on google earth what u mena sam sites, u mean missle sitesI flew 56-519 from Apr 1967to Apr 1969.It was assigned to the 54th Weather Sq on Guam and was TDY to Udorn RTAFB! We flew it out of Udorn over Laos and North Vietnam! sometime in the early seventies it went back to just a C-130 and was given to the South Vietnamese Air Force Hence when its flying days were over it went to TSN! If that aircraft could talk it would tell an interesting tale!! Ha-Ha!!! The North Vietnamese wouldnt like the tale!!! fitzferrari Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzferrari Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I flew 56-519 out of Udorn RTAFB between 67 to 69!We flew her over Laos and North Viet-Nam. She was sent back to the states in late 1970 and went to a reserve unit! Then she was flown back to Viet-Nam and given to the South Vietnamese Airforce sometime in 1973 she ended up in 1975 being flown by the North Viet-Namese untill they couldnt keep her flying. She was last seen to my Knowledge at Ton-Son-Nhut airport in 1999! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamMcGowan Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 They were all A-models, which means that if they weren't derelict when they were left, they were within a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamMcGowan Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I realize that we're getting far, far away from Herk-dom, but these "SAM" or "missile" sites are actually AAA sites. Probably 85mm KS-12 or -18 or 100mm KS-19. Left/lower one seems to still be occupied. PUAZO in center with cables going out to guns. Radar, either SON-9 (Fire Can) or RPK-1 (Flap Wheel) in revetment at 2:00, outside ring of guns. 1. While these have same general layout as S-75 (SA-2) they lack the daisy-chain roads for the reload trucks. They also lack the more extensive revetments at the center of the site for the SNR-75 radar and its associated (6 or 7) trailers 2. Google "SAM Site Overview" and download the SAMSITE OVERVIEW KMZ for Google Earth for more on this. 3. Returning to all things C-130, the Soviets hauled F-5s out of VN for exploitation, wonder if they took any of the -130s? Considering that they were all A-models, which had already been declared obsolete by the USAF in the mid-sixties, I seriously doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jansen Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 How about 56-489? RZ W/O 04/75 SVAF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jansen Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Considering that they were all A-models, which had already been declared obsolete by the USAF in the mid-sixties, I seriously doubt it. Just because they were obsolete doesn't mean the Ruskies couldn't learn anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRSmith Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I blocked an A model in at TSN in 72 when I was there with the 38th TAS from Langley--I don't remember all the details but I think it was one of the 1st A models that the VNAF got --Bob wasn't 56-0482 assigned to Naha in the 60's--seems like I worked on it an 476 when I was there Smitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdaley Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 482 and 476 were both at Naha before going to the ANG in 1972. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRSmith Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Bob, Thanks, I knew if any one had an idea it would be you. Smitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob130ab Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I flew 56-519 out of Udorn RTAFB between 67 to 69!We flew her over Laos and North Viet-Nam. She was sent back to the states in late 1970 and went to a reserve unit! Then she was flown back to Viet-Nam and given to the South Vietnamese Airforce sometime in 1973 she ended up in 1975 being flown by the North Viet-Namese untill they couldnt keep her flying. She was last seen to my Knowledge at Ton-Son-Nhut airport in 1999! 924th/925th TAG, AF Reserve, Ellington AFB, TX, had 56-519 from the middle of 1970 until sometime after Feb 1972. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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